Black Motors vs. Natural Aluminum

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  • Nessism
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    #16
    Hope you guys realize that the silver engines are painted with silver paint.
    Ed

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    • Guest

      #17
      I knew that, but it seems the OP did not.....you answered his question.

      Tony.

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      • hampshirehog
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        #18
        We're back to the O level experiments with eggs painted black (and I didn't bother filming the egg powered boat I made with my daughter a fortnight or so ago - the result was about as exciting as watching paint dry).

        Black engines (and other parts for that matter) will shed heat better than any other colour, including polished or unpolished alloy. Will it make any difference on our bikes worth considering? No. With the temperatures (and temperature gradients) and materials used it's worth diddly squat.
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        • DanTheMan

          #19
          Originally posted by focus frenzy
          original (AKA: real) volkswagon engine valve covers were black to aid cooling, volkswagon produced a artic kit to help their air cooled engines warm up and it included chrome valve covers.
          The valve covers on all the VW engines I worked on were much like the ones on the Corvair engines I worked on. Made of steel and rusty, covered in oil and dirt, no paint color that I could discern at all.
          The aluminum color on my GS engine is just that, aluminum, no paint, the only "paint" is the clear coat in various spots such as the clutch and stator covers. The only black paint on my Corvairs and on the VWs was on the engine cooling shrouding in the engine area.

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          • Guest

            #20
            I thought these entire engines were coated to keep the aluminum from oxidizing. Either black or clear coat.

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            • Nessism
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              #21
              Originally posted by DanTheMan
              The aluminum color on my GS engine is just that, aluminum, no paint, the only "paint" is the clear coat in various spots such as the clutch and stator covers.

              Hey Dan,

              How did you strip the factory silver paint off your GS engine?
              Ed

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              • Road_Clam

                #22
                Originally posted by JMHJ
                Did I see somewhere that the painted (black) ones cool better than the unpainteds?
                Only in cooler climates.

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                • Agemax
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                  • Apr 2008
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by hampshirehog
                  We're back to the O level experiments with eggs painted black (and I didn't bother filming the egg powered boat I made with my daughter a fortnight or so ago - the result was about as exciting as watching paint dry).

                  Black engines (and other parts for that matter) will shed heat better than any other colour, including polished or unpolished alloy. Will it make any difference on our bikes worth considering? No. With the temperatures (and temperature gradients) and materials used it's worth diddly squat.
                  exactly. it wont make diddly squat difference that you or i will notice. its just a matter of preference in looks, and how well you can spray or polish
                  1978 GS1085.

                  Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                  • Guest

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Agemax
                    exactly. it wont make diddly squat difference that you or i will notice. its just a matter of preference in looks, and how well you can spray or polish
                    By the way bull hockey in other words is bullsh!t.

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                    • Agemax
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by chef1366
                      By the way bull hockey in other words is bullsh!t.
                      yeah i gathered that now mate. what the hell.....black motor,polished motor, its what you choose and we aint gonna notice any difference
                      1978 GS1085.

                      Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                      • dwvoss

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Agemax
                        yeah i gathered that now mate. what the hell.....black motor,polished motor, its what you choose and we aint gonna notice any difference
                        Except that black motors are way COOLER. And faster...

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                        • Agemax
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by dwvoss
                          Except that black motors are way COOLER. And faster...
                          nah, gotta be a fact that a polished motor is more aerodynamically efficient than a painted motor
                          1978 GS1085.

                          Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                          • Kaiser Sosei

                            #28
                            Natural Aluminum motors are lighter and therefore better.


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                            • Nessism
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Kaiser Sosei
                              Natural Aluminum motors are lighter and therefore better.


                              Yea, too bad Suzuki painted the GS's.
                              Ed

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                              • tkent02
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                                #30
                                You are all forgetting one thing, a mud covered engine runs hotter, and thus makes more power.

                                Mud hides all colors, and even the absence of color.

                                Mud makes even pink bikes look good.
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