A quick question abought a Dyna 2000 and oil cooler plumbing

[rocz]

Is I'm sure most of you have seen I have just picked up a GS powered GSXR that has been fitted with a set of twin oil coolers and also a Dyna 2000 ignition. My first question is do they have the plumbing setup right for the twin oil coolers (SEE PICTURES)?? And also is their some special timing indicator needed to set the timing of the Dyna ignition plate like there is for the GSXR motors, or a good place to read about the setup procedure. I called Dyna of Friday to talk to them but after 45min on hold I just gave up.

[Nessism]

The pickup points for the cooler look right but the rest looks ridicules; that's an air cooled engine, 1/3 of one of those coolers is all that's needed. You are going to have serious oil pressure loss though those coolers, which will have a negative effect on your entire oiling system. Plus, the oil will be over cooled which is not good - too much of a good thing. I'd take the entire mess off. The top end oiling system may have some merit but not those coolers.

[tlg1100]

thats one cool motor,

[Guest]

For the dyna 2000 you can download the installation and setupinstrucktions form their web page (http://www.dynaonline.com/skins/downloads/) or pm me an email address and I could send them to you.

Also check to see if the oil filter cover is from an 1150 otherwise those coolers are doing nothing

[rocz]

Thanks for that link, i was looking on there the other day but didnt see the instruction for the GS till today my bad should look a little better

[rocz]

Also check to see if the oil filter cover is from an 1150 otherwise those coolers are doing nothing[/QUOTE]


Whats the difference between a 1100 and a 1150 cover??

[posplayr]

The pickup points for the cooler look right but the rest looks ridicules; that's an air cooled engine, 1/3 of one of those coolers is all that's needed. You are going to have serious oil pressure loss though those coolers, which will have a negative effect on your entire oiling system. Plus, the oil will be over cooled which is not good - too much of a good thing. I'd take the entire mess off. The top end oiling system may have some merit but not those coolers.

Ed,
I think the cooler arrangement is actually well thought out. Assuming the rear adapter is just splitting off instead of capturing all the flow then the cooler is only cooling the oil flow to the top end oiler. There is still plenty of oil flow directly to the transmission and crankshaft gallery's. I'm assuming that the cylinder block has all the normal ports from flow.

The cooler is are completely hidden behind the fairing.
Jim

[Nessism]

Well thought out? Well maybe, if the intended use is doing a Cannonball run though Death Valley.

That cooler system is actual two seperate cooler circuits: a general purpose cooler working off the oil feed ports just below the oil filter housing - feeding the cooler on the RH side, and the LH cooler feeding the top end oiler working off the oil distribution cavity under the carburetors. Massive over kill at work here, and potentially harmful since a) the oil is not likely to ever come up to proper temperature to boil off condensation (short of race conditions), and b) since there well be pumping losses, and possible leaks, with that much plumbing. The pumping losses can be offset somewhat by using different gears on the oil pump but still, I can't figure out the basic question of why the need for all that cooling capacity?

[lucabond]

In order to set the static timing on your Dyna 2000 you need a timing plate from a bike that used points. Is a brass plate in the shape of the leter"c" it has the mark (point) on it used to set the timing. I have the same ignition and have been down this road. If your bike came with electronic ignition from the factory the motor won't have the timing plate since that timing wasn't adjustable.
Its simple once you borrow a plate as you can set it make some marks and then take it off you don't need it once set. I used 1 from an 850 on my 1100 it fit fine so I assume it's the same. When you have the timing plate the directions will make sence.
And with the 2000 its easy just rotate the pickup plate till the light on the 2000 comes on and look at the rotor to see what # lines up with the mark on the plate that is where the timing is currently set. To adjust it loosen the 2 pickup screws and move the pickup some then slide the plate till the light comes on. Once you set 1 side do the same to the other side. Good luck

[Guest]

Also check to see if the oil filter cover is from an 1150 otherwise those coolers are doing nothing

Whats the difference between a 1100 and a 1150 cover??[/QUOTE]


The 1150 came factory with an oil cooler so the filter cover was designed to block oil flow and sent it to the cooler before going through the filter. Katman has a pretty good write up with pictures. http://robwilton.com/katana_engine.html

[TeamDar]

The cooler that is feeding the top end oiler is only feeding the left side of the head! The oil can't jump through the cam chain tunnel to oil the right side top end. There should be one line going to each side of the head, not two lines feeding the left side only. Dar

[Nessism]

The cooler that is feeding the top end oiler is only feeding the left side of the head! The oil can't jump through the cam chain tunnel to oil the right side top end. There should be one line going to each side of the head, not two lines feeding the left side only. Dar

Good point here! I missed this detail (can you tell I'm a 2V guy?).

[rocz]

Thanks for all the help here guys. I kinda thought that the way they had these coolers set up was a little odd. Would a motor like this stay cool on the street with say one of those coolers. The body work for on the front is kinda trashed and i think it would be easier to replace it than try to fix it and if i changed to a single cooler in the front i wouldn't have to modify it as much.

[rocz]

In order to set the static timing on your Dyna 2000 you need a timing plate from a bike that used points. Is a brass plate in the shape of the leter"c" it has the mark (point) on it used to set the timing. I have the same ignition and have been down this road. If your bike came with electronic ignition from the factory the motor won't have the timing plate since that timing wasn't adjustable.
Its simple once you borrow a plate as you can set it make some marks and then take it off you don't need it once set. I used 1 from an 850 on my 1100 it fit fine so I assume it's the same. When you have the timing plate the directions will make sence.
And with the 2000 its easy just rotate the pickup plate till the light on the 2000 comes on and look at the rotor to see what # lines up with the mark on the plate that is where the timing is currently set. To adjust it loosen the 2 pickup screws and move the pickup some then slide the plate till the light comes on. Once you set 1 side do the same to the other side. Good luck

Is this plate something that stayed on the bike if it had points or was this a timing plate you just bolt on and set the timing and take it off like the plate for the GSXR Dyna ignition??

[posplayr]

The cooler that is feeding the top end oiler is only feeding the left side of the head! The oil can't jump through the cam chain tunnel to oil the right side top end. There should be one line going to each side of the head, not two lines feeding the left side only. Dar

Whoops you are right; I assumed he as running top end oiler to both sides in concert with the dual oil coolers. OK not so well thought out.