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NelanCustoms
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anyone convert thier dual front brake to a single? or know of anyone who has? bad idea? looks goodTags: None
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8trackmind
The stock single disk bikes have just barely enough stopping power...and thats if you use plenty of rear brake.Originally posted by NelanCustoms View Postanyone convert thier dual front brake to a single? or know of anyone who has? bad idea? looks good
Of course, if you don't mind a little mild fabrication, you could use a dual piston caliper. I'm running two dual piston Kawasaki calipers on my GS1000. Works great. I'm sure one would do the job.
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Umm- ok but I can lock up the front wheel pretty easily with 1 finger. Is that weak?Originally posted by tkent02 View PostSure you could, but why?
Dual brakes are weak enough for me.
If I wanted even less braking I guess I could remove one of my fingers.Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2006 H-D Fatboy, 2021 BMW K1600B
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No, your finger must be pretty strong.Originally posted by 1980GS1000E View PostUmm- ok but I can lock up the front wheel pretty easily with 1 finger. Is that weak?
Which pads are you running?
I want some.
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Suzukfan78
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Im using one disc up front now. I went to a one disc setup after running a dual stock EC model setup mainly for looks and reducing unsprung weight... IT SUCKS! And is borderline dangerous IMO. I am changing over to a dual 1990s katana setup. It takes a very strong squeeze for a pitiful stoping distance even with ss lines and 70lbs of stock weight. Everytime I use them I am reminded of those stupid "Test your grip" arcade games in pizza parlors. I would stick with duals.
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hp1000s
Not for the sake of argument, but I just got a book of all the test-reports for '78-81 GS'; both chain & shaft. After reading most all of it, I was suprised to see that the period testers had not much, or no love for the dual-disk set-ups, on not only the Suzi, but the Kawis, too. Several commented that they preferred the wire wheels with single disc for the lower unsprung weight handling, with virtually equal stopping power. Almost all said that wet weather stopping was NOT good. There was mention of pending imporvement in pad materials; according to Suzuki.
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I'd like to see some close up pics of that... \\Originally posted by 8trackmind View PostOf course, if you don't mind a little mild fabrication, you could use a dual piston caliper. I'm running two dual piston Kawasaki calipers on my GS1000. Works great. I'm sure one would do the job.
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Whatever was on the bike when I bought it a few months ago. The Earl's lines made a huge difference.Originally posted by tkent02 View PostNo, your finger must be pretty strong.
Which pads are you running?
I want some.Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2006 H-D Fatboy, 2021 BMW K1600B
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This was in the day when the best tires in the world had perhaps half the grip of regular cheapo tires today. Rubber and tire technology has advanced so far in the last 30 years that to go back to the days of weak and ineffective braking is ludicrous. I doubt anyone who rides well enough to be able to feel the difference in unsprung weight would even consider this. There are very lightweight brakes and wheels available off newer bikes that would give incredible stopping power.Originally posted by hp1000s View PostI was suprised to see that the period testers had not much, or no love for the dual-disk set-ups, on not only the Suzi, but the Kawis, too. Several commented that they preferred the wire wheels with single disc for the lower unsprung weight handling, with virtually equal stopping power.
Even with these, a GS will never stop like a modern bike, why make it worse than it is?
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Really? Do you have super strong fingers, or normal ones? I have a pretty strong grip, (rock climbing, dirt riding) and after adding the second disc and braided steel lines to my 750 I still need two fingers to get the wheel to lock, three with a passenger.Originally posted by 1980GS1000E View PostWhatever was on the bike when I bought it a few months ago. The Earl's lines made a huge difference.
You must have some very good pads, I wonder what they are? The ones I put on my car last year (Jurid OE Improved Compound) are almost too strong, after they are on about a second they get hot and get more grip, perhaps double what they have cold. You have to let off the brake pedal to keep a consistent stop.
I would like some like these on the GS.
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I went down to one front disc on a 550 as a result of going for wire wheels with alloy rims in search of weight saving. At the same time I upgraded to SS lines and put in some good pads - sorry, I can't remember the brand.
The brakes weren't great beforehand and they weren't great afterwards but I don't really think I noticed much difference if I'm honest. Having only very rarely ridden modern machines I've just learned to expect brakes to behave how you know they are going to behave, accepted it and ridden accordingly.
Would I do it again, now on a 1000? No.
(So there's two conflicting views!)
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Notice I said I can lock up the tire. That is no Metzeler on there. Just some imitation. I don't think the tire affords enough traction for a stoppie. However, I don't have a gorilla grip, but using the the outside of the lever towards the end definitely helps.Originally posted by tkent02 View PostReally? Do you have super strong fingers, or normal ones? I have a pretty strong grip, (rock climbing, dirt riding) and after adding the second disc and braided steel lines to my 750 I still need two fingers to get the wheel to lock, three with a passenger.Current Rides: 1980 Suzuki GS1000ET, 2006 H-D Fatboy, 2021 BMW K1600B
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Did you use the 3 line setup or two separate front lines to the calipers?
I have the same setup on my G just with OE lines & I would say they are pretty weak but with a good four finger squeeze it scrubs speed off "ok".
I have loan of a mate's 92 750 Nighthawk at the moment.... single disk front & drum rear. The front is noticeably much stronger. Much more than the weight diff but it's got a twin piston caliper & a bigger disk....
Still like to see pics of that guys twin piston on stock disk setup mentioned earlier in the thread.
Dan
1980 GS1000G - Sold
1978 GS1000E - Finished!
1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!
www.parasiticsanalytics.com
TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/
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