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  • 700eruss

    #1

    110 MPH cut on a 700E

    Did suzuki (in their infinite wisdom) put a 110 MPH cutoff on my 700E???
    It pulls strong to 8000 RPM in top gear then stops (which is 110 MPH).
    If they did, does anyone know how to defeat it????
  • Dave8338
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    #2
    Originally posted by 700eruss
    Did suzuki (in their infinite wisdom) put a 110 MPH cutoff on my 700E???
    It pulls strong to 8000 RPM in top gear then stops (which is 110 MPH).
    If they did, does anyone know how to defeat it????
    Not that I'm aware of... it could be ignition related (loosing advance) or fuel related (running out) 8k is just hitting the power band strong!

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    • Mark M

      #3
      Originally posted by 700eruss
      Did suzuki (in their infinite wisdom) put a 110 MPH cutoff on my 700E???
      It pulls strong to 8000 RPM in top gear then stops (which is 110 MPH).
      If they did, does anyone know how to defeat it????
      Well, my 82 1100E will bury the tach needle well past the 9500rpm redline in 5th, so I doubt there is a cutout. That level of Naziism didn't hit for quite a few years after your bike was produced.

      I would guess ignition or fuel as well. Does your bike pull past 8000rpm in the lower gears? Try it in 3rd and see how it does at high rpm.

      Mark

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      • Mark whiz

        #4
        I've found on the few times I had my 700 up in that range, as soon as I hit 8000, the engine almost instantly revved up to 10,000. I figure that is because the engine has so little flywheel effect. But it definitely bumped redline.

        What you may have is a Tach that isn't reading well anymore - I know mine really lags behind what the engine is actually doing once I get above 4500 to 5000rpm. I guess it's getting a little old and tired like its owner.

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        • Griffin
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          #5
          A stock GS700 will pull redline in 5th, which translates to about 125-130 mph. Mine will still make it to 120+ mph, but needs some room to get there.
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          • 700eruss

            #6
            Pulls great

            Thanks guys, it pulls great in 1-4, and it pulls great to 8000 in 5, I'll play with it and get back to you.

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            • GS700E Lover

              #7
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              Is it a stock front and rear sprocket? I have buried the speedometer on my 700E before, so no, there should not be a govenor on the bike

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              • GS700E Lover

                #8
                Mark

                I had this happen before as well. It has been over ten years so my memory may be foggy or confused, but as I recall I replaced the clutch and friction plates and it did not solve it. I learned after this that the higher gear plates get little wear. But I was told to adjust the clutch pin inside the sprocket cover, and it worked. Not sure this helps as many of us are not trying to redline 5th gear anymore

                Originally posted by Mark whiz
                I've found on the few times I had my 700 up in that range, as soon as I hit 8000, the engine almost instantly revved up to 10,000. I figure that is because the engine has so little flywheel effect. But it definitely bumped redline.

                What you may have is a Tach that isn't reading well anymore - I know mine really lags behind what the engine is actually doing once I get above 4500 to 5000rpm. I guess it's getting a little old and tired like its owner.

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                • Don-lo

                  #9
                  could be jetting. has anyone cut holes in the airbox or messed with the jets?

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                  • crag antler
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mark M
                    That level of Naziism didn't hit for quite a few years after your bike was produced.
                    I don't know about that Mark.
                    Wouldn't it be a level of Naziism that forced the Japanese to make their bikes 700s to appease Harley back in the '80s
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                    • gearhead13

                      #11
                      Originally posted by crag antler
                      I don't know about that Mark.
                      Wouldn't it be a level of Naziism that forced the Japanese to make their bikes 700s to appease Harley back in the '80s
                      I am not sure, but I thought that was for insurance purposes?

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                      • tkent02
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gearhead13
                        I am not sure, but I thought that was for insurance purposes?
                        No, it was done directly to help Harely compete with the Japs.
                        As if people bought them to go fast.
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                        • Mark whiz

                          #13
                          No, it was done directly to help Harely compete with the Japs.
                          As if people bought them to go fast.
                          That's correct - from 1985 to 1988 there was an excise tax placed on any bike over 700ccs (except Harleys) as they petitioned Reagan to help them compete in the free market system. The Tax was on a graduated scale, starting at around 20% and dropping some each year until it was allowed to "sunset" and come off the books.

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                          • Griffin
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by GS700E Lover
                            Is it a stock front and rear sprocket? I have buried the speedometer on my 700E before, so no, there should not be a govenor on the bike
                            If you've buried the 140 mph speedo on your 700, you've either got a highly modified 700, or a highly optimistic speedometer.

                            When brand new, the stock GS700 topped out right around 130, and took over half a mile to get there from a standing start.
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                            • Mark M

                              #15
                              Originally posted by crag antler
                              I don't know about that Mark.
                              Wouldn't it be a level of Naziism that forced the Japanese to make their bikes 700s to appease Harley back in the '80s
                              Nah, that was trade politics. They could build 750's if they wanted, but there was a tax on any bike bigger than 700cc and they built 699cc bikes to beat the tax.

                              I was talking about the Naziism of politicians deciding how fast a motorcycle should be allowed to go, instead of the marketplace and the rider of said motorcycle.

                              Mark

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