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  • Guest

    #1

    Help identify this clutch

    This is going into my 78 GS1000. It fits fine, but I wanted to see if anyone has seen it before or knows what it is or who made it?

    It is a billet aluminum basket with the heavy duty welded backing plate and springs:






    It uses the stock inner sleeve hub and pressure disk (where you install the steel plates and fiber plates), but the plates and fibers that came with it are a bit smaller in diameter than the stock ones. The stock plates/fibers won't fit inside the basket. And also, the steel plates that came with it don't have any dimples in them. Is that normal?

    Stock stuff is on the left:






    I'd like to try and figure out what I have here, so that I can order replacement fibers and/or steel plates if I need to. The ones that came with the clutch seem fine. In fact, the plates and fibers are a bit thicker than the stock ones.

    Any ideas?
    Last edited by Guest; 08-06-2008, 11:32 PM.
  • Guest

    #2
    Looks just like an early model GS750. The part numbers for the steels and fibers are different.

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    • lecroy

      #3
      Stock gear. What makes you think its a billet basket and not just a stock one turned down? With the stock gear, bike must have been pretty slow that it was on. So may have been someones attempt to just lighten one up. Maybe a turned down 1100 basket on 1000 gear?

      I had seen a few guys run Kaw baskets on GS gears. Just a mess.

      Plate on right looks like FBG. Not sure on the steels, we always just use the stock ones.

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      • Guest

        #4
        Originally posted by lecroy
        Stock gear. What makes you think its a billet basket and not just a stock one turned down? With the stock gear, bike must have been pretty slow that it was on. So may have been someones attempt to just lighten one up. Maybe a turned down 1100 basket on 1000 gear?

        I had seen a few guys run Kaw baskets on GS gears. Just a mess.

        Plate on right looks like FBG. Not sure on the steels, we always just use the stock ones.
        Yeah, the stock plates are too wide. They won't fit in this basket. I don't know what the 1100 clutch looks like, but here's a stock 1000 basket.

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        • Guest

          #5
          Looks like the inside bottom of the stock 1100 basket has the same casting marks that the 1000 has. The clutch I have is smooth on the bottom. So I don't think it's a stock basket that's been turned down.

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          • lecroy

            #6
            If it is billet, I would call MTC and Falicon. My guess is it was one of the two.

            Did you compare it with an 1100 plate?

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            • salty_monk
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              #7
              The 1100 uses the same clutch plates as the 1000G & yes they are slightly smaller than the skunks.... If I remember rightly about 5 or 6mm total diameter smaller.

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              • Guest

                #8
                That is not a billet basket. It is a casting.

                Jay

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Big Jay
                  That is not a billet basket. It is a casting.

                  Jay
                  Could be. But I don't see any casting marks or seams anywhere.

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    I might have found it? It looks just like the one on the left in the pic:

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                    • Nessism
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                      #11
                      Looks like a casting to me. Inside is the giveaway since it doesn't look anything like a hog-out part.
                      Ed

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                      • seuadr

                        #12
                        Originally posted by renobruce
                        This is going into my 78 GS1000. It fits fine, but I wanted to see if anyone has seen it before or knows what it is or who?
                        oh ya! that's bob. i went to highschool with him

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                        • Guest

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nessism
                          Looks like a casting to me. Inside is the giveaway since it doesn't look anything like a hog-out part.
                          What's difference (other than the style) of the inside of this one compared to mine?




                          The insides look the same to me.

                          Maybe I'll never know for sure what it is. I was most interested in replacement parts. I'll measure eveything and figure it out.

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                          • lecroy

                            #14
                            The ones I have are very smooth with no casting marks. They all appear to have been shot peened or something on the inside. The two I have from MTC are both plated. The Falicon one I have is a natural color. All have SC gears. MTC with MTC gear and Falicon with Falicon gears. My friends sliders are all MTC. These are all coated black. My MTCs are not sliders and both are a very dark green color.

                            The MTCs are in the two engines right now but I took a closeup of the Falicon for you looking at the inside so you could see the texture. Hope this helps.

                            Yours could be billet, I can't tell from the pictures.
                            Last edited by Guest; 12-18-2008, 11:23 AM.

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                            • lecroy

                              #15
                              I hunted around a did find this picture which shows three of my baskets. The one on the left is one of the MTC parts. The center one is something that was given to me. I don't know who made it for sure. One on right is a beefed up GS1150 basket with stock basket. Notice the cast marks.
                              Last edited by Guest; 12-18-2008, 11:23 AM.

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