Yosh Race Pistons: 2V 1000?

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  • dardoonk
    Forum Sage
    • Nov 2006
    • 1002
    • Indian Trail (Charlotte) NC

    #46
    Originally posted by first timer
    For laughs relist them on ebay with the correct info and see if they go for more then you paid. The Kaw performance parts crowd is hungrier then the gs crowd for parts. If they don't go for much have fun, just remember machine work costs lots of money nowadays.

    First things first try to find some rings.
    If I put them back on ebay, I am going to wait until my feedback is old enough that no one can see what I paid for them. Plus, with a little cleanup, they look a heck of a lot better than when I bought them.

    As far as rings go, I spoke to Redline Cycle in Skokie, IL today. They build mostly older KZ bikes. They recommend I call Total Seal, but said they might have to be special made.

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    • Frankenzuki
      Forum Mentor
      • May 2004
      • 435
      • southern CT

      #47
      pistons

      You should be able to bore the pin out to 18mm and then have the circlip grooves recut,but if I remember correctly the kawasaki valve angles are different than the Suzuki. So even though they are larger than the valve reliefs in your stock piston, depending on valve angle you could possibly end up with less valve clearance. Bottom line is could you make them work? Sure but by the time you get done with the machine work you would probabaly be better off getting the correct piston for your application. Relist them on ebay, don't worry about what you paid, none of those Kawasaki guys are looking at Suzuki parts! Take the money and put it towards a good set of pistons.

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      • blowerbike
        Forum Guru
        GSResource Superstar
        • Aug 2008
        • 7057
        • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

        #48
        WOW..
        all i can say is WOW.
        how long is this thread?
        39 pages or something?
        well, maybe not that long.
        17mm is old kz/z1 kawi stuff.
        gpz/ maybe late gpz 83-84 was 18mm.
        yes valve angles and combustion chamber/dome area's are differant for sure.
        i would drive to the ebay sellers house and give him a Z1 enima with them...one at a time.
        retarded people selling m/c parts.
        geesh.
        if he has any sack at all he'll refund your money no questions asked!

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        • dardoonk
          Forum Sage
          • Nov 2006
          • 1002
          • Indian Trail (Charlotte) NC

          #49
          Well, maybe he knew, maybe he didn't, but I suspect he never measured the pins & thought they were Yosh style pistons... He had two sets listed, and the other I was sure was a GS piston because I had one to compare. If he was trying to make any money on them and actually knew they were for a KZ, I suspect he'd have listed them that way.

          Maybe I shouldn't, but I am taking some of the blame because I had plenty of time and did not confirm the wristpin size. Frankly, even though I haven't been working on Suzuki's that long, I should have known better.

          The more I think about it, I'll probably re-list them on e-bay myself. Frankly, they are a lot nicer than they appeared after soaking them in some carb cleaner & wiping off the carbon. I've only got $50 bucks in them & honestly, they look like new. The oil rings are the same as a Wiseco 73mm piston, so basically everything rides on fact they have a dykes compression ring, which might be hard, expensive to find, or have made.

          Hopefully, a few KZ guys will fall all over them and I'll get back more than I paid.

          Need a bunch of bidders so they go real high, so Rapidray and I can have a chat about his pistons... I'm gonna need to sell a bunch of stuff on ebay for those

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          • rapidray
            Forum Guru
            GSResource Superstar
            • Oct 2006
            • 8195
            • So Cal

            #50
            If you post them on ebay make SURE you list them under AHRMA as one of the categories. The vintage racers will pay good money for these parts! Ray.

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            • dardoonk
              Forum Sage
              • Nov 2006
              • 1002
              • Indian Trail (Charlotte) NC

              #51
              Originally posted by rapidray
              If you post them on ebay make SURE you list them under AHRMA as one of the categories. The vintage racers will pay good money for these parts! Ray.
              Well, their on ebay now.. I was considering claying the head and figuring out how the valve pockets were going to look, but I can't do that until after I bore the block, so it would have been just another delay to a project I already wanted to have started in June.

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              • first timer
                Forum Sage
                • Aug 2002
                • 3429
                • Tucson, Arizona

                #52
                where did you find the rings?
                78 GS1000 Yosh replica racer project, 82 Kat 1000, 10 990 ADV-R, Some dirt bikes

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                • dardoonk
                  Forum Sage
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1002
                  • Indian Trail (Charlotte) NC

                  #53
                  Originally posted by first timer
                  where did you find the rings?
                  I never really looked. I tried to call TotalSeal twice, but never got to speak to anyone.
                  After that, I decided to go ahead and try to sell them.

                  I really want to do something other than the standard Wiseco 1085 kit with this build, but keep it a street bike, well, mostly a street bike. I might have to look into the CP pistons or some other options and see where that takes me.

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                  • dardoonk
                    Forum Sage
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1002
                    • Indian Trail (Charlotte) NC

                    #54
                    Originally posted by dardoonk
                    Originally posted by first timer
                    where did you find the rings?
                    I never really looked. I tried to call TotalSeal twice, but never got to speak to anyone.
                    After that, I decided to go ahead and try to sell them.

                    I really want to do something other than the standard Wiseco 1085 kit with this build, but keep it a street bike, well, mostly a street bike. I might have to look into the CP pistons or some other options and see where that takes me.
                    I did finally speak to Total Seal. They could have made dykes rings for without a problem, I just needed to send them a piston. They quoted me $150 for four sets (compression & oil rings)

                    I ended up listing the pistons on ebay. This time correctly as KZ pistons and they sold for $157, so in the end, I made $100 in whole deal

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                    • Tarbash 27

                      #55
                      That was easy.

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                      • rapidray
                        Forum Guru
                        GSResource Superstar
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 8195
                        • So Cal

                        #56
                        Let me know when you want me to build you a set of CPs! Glad you came away smelling like roses instead of smelling like something else! Ray.

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                        • trippivot
                          Forum Sage
                          Past Site Supporter
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 2815
                          • Des Moines , IA

                          #57
                          ,
                          russ collins piston set 76 mm = 1176 O ringed cylinders too
                          SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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                          • rapidray
                            Forum Guru
                            GSResource Superstar
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 8195
                            • So Cal

                            #58
                            Holy cow Jeff! Those are ANTIQUES, huh?!!! They have to be almost 40 years old, am I close? Ray.

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                            • dardoonk
                              Forum Sage
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1002
                              • Indian Trail (Charlotte) NC

                              #59
                              Originally posted by rapidray
                              Let me know when you want me to build you a set of CPs! Glad you came away smelling like roses instead of smelling like something else! Ray.
                              Yea, I lucked out, but that goes to show that you need to list things right on ebay. Now, about those CP's.. do you work there??

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                              • rapidray
                                Forum Guru
                                GSResource Superstar
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 8195
                                • So Cal

                                #60
                                I used to work there & am still sponsored by them. I am a dealer for them & can order anything you want. Let me know if you're interested. Ray.

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