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  • gs850cafe

    #16
    ive got a gsxr damper as well...i want to mount it to my bike cause...well sharp corners, and 70 mpg bumps sometimes cause a slight wobble..

    ill post pics up if an when i get it done

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    • Agemax
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      • plymouth uk

      #17
      i see the newer GSXR's have electronic dampers which increase the damping effect the faster you go.
      i read in another bike forum that it is possible to fit an over ride to these dampers so you can adjust them manually by adjusting the resistance (i think) to the damper, via a small potentiometer.
      does anyone know if this will work and how to connect one up?
      1978 GS1085.

      Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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      • salty_monk
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        #18
        I researched it for the Honda HESD damper. Even got one to take a look at. That one takes a voltage feed via the ECU that takes it to maximum damp at 6.5v. (It moves a solenoid that controls a valve).

        On the CBR forum there are instructions to a voltage regulator setup to make it manual. It runs at relatively high current draw.

        I expect the GSXR one is similar....
        1980 GS1000G - Sold
        1978 GS1000E - Finished!
        1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
        1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
        2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
        1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
        2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

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        • posplayr
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          #19
          Originally posted by salty_monk
          I researched it for the Honda HESD damper. Even got one to take a look at. That one takes a voltage feed via the ECU that takes it to maximum damp at 6.5v. (It moves a solenoid that controls a valve).

          On the CBR forum there are instructions to a voltage regulator setup to make it manual. It runs at relatively high current draw.

          I expect the GSXR one is similar....
          got a linky???

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          • salty_monk
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            #20
            Mine is 250mm with a 65mm stroke.



            I have one of the units if you want one to play with... It's pretty big, I couldn't see how to make it work with the GS as the bars are in the way. You need clipon's & a relocated ignition...
            1980 GS1000G - Sold
            1978 GS1000E - Finished!
            1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
            1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
            2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
            1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
            2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

            www.parasiticsanalytics.com

            TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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            • Agemax
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              • plymouth uk

              #21
              bugger, i just missed out on a brand new electronic damper on ebay, went for ?10.50
              1978 GS1085.

              Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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              • salty_monk
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                #22
                Apparently the newer ones can't be powered up manually in the same way..
                1980 GS1000G - Sold
                1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                • Agemax
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                  #23
                  apparantly it is operated by a small tapered plunger that moves in or out to restrict or relieve the damping action. i wonder if it would be possible to make a mechanical adjuster to do the job.
                  i guess i will just have to buy one and have a play with it
                  1978 GS1085.

                  Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                  • salty_monk
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                    #24
                    I looked at that... The answer is yes but it is wet in there (i.e. you'll need to seal any adjuster against the oil pressure).

                    Also the solenoid is on the underside.

                    Also you should know that these units are pretty massive (tall as well as big and heavy).

                    With Clipons you may manage to mount one but I don't see it ever looking good...

                    1980 GS1000G - Sold
                    1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                    1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                    1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                    2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                    1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                    2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                    www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                    TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                    • Agemax
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                      • plymouth uk

                      #25
                      Originally posted by salty_monk
                      I looked at that... The answer is yes but it is wet in there (i.e. you'll need to seal any adjuster against the oil pressure).

                      Also the solenoid is on the underside.

                      Also you should know that these units are pretty massive (tall as well as big and heavy).

                      With Clipons you may manage to mount one but I don't see it ever looking good...

                      are we still talking about the same damper? i am still looking at the gsxr damper, not the big honda type ones that sit on top of the top yoke
                      1978 GS1085.

                      Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                      • posplayr
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                        #26
                        I don't remember what year this one was off. I hate to even guess. It is close to fitting but would need to be flipped up. Made by KYB.

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                        • posplayr
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                          #27
                          another shot with the damper upside down. There are only two contacts in the connector.

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                          • Agemax
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by posplayr
                            I don't remember what year this one was off. I hate to even guess. It is close to fitting but would need to be flipped up. Made by KYB.
                            this is the one i missed out on. (gutted) i see no reason why it cant be fitted upside down.........
                            1978 GS1085.

                            Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                            • posplayr
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Agemax
                              this is the one i missed out on. (gutted) i see no reason why it cant be fitted upside down.........
                              http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gsxr-600-L...vip=true&rt=nc
                              Looks like the same form factor

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                              • salty_monk
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                                #30
                                Sorry talking at crossed purposes. I was talking about the Honda one.
                                I have not pulled apart a GSXr one... Yet
                                1980 GS1000G - Sold
                                1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                                1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                                1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                                2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                                1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                                2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                                www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                                TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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