Outboard Starter plates

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[Grimly]

Interesting.
Halfway towards what I've been thinking of.
I'd like to remove the flywheel/rotor, fit a plate like that, and keep the starter in original location, so would need a starter idler shaft location drilling.
The idea being to fit an external pulley and poly-V belt to drive an external alternator.

[tom203]

I see a honda nighthawk in your future- external alternator already there!

[Grimly]

I see a honda nighthawk in your future- external alternator already there!

Oh, hardly.
I see Honda managed to do their usual muppetry with their inability to design an internal chain drive.

[blowerbike]

Interesting.
Halfway towards what I've been thinking of.
I'd like to remove the flywheel/rotor, fit a plate like that, and keep the starter in original location, so would need a starter idler shaft location drilling.
The idea being to fit an external pulley and poly-V belt to drive an external alternator.

Anthony Corsette on this site makes what you speak of for the pro street bad boys.
uses a GSXR type alternator with a pulley.

[Grimly]

Anthony Corsette on this site makes what you speak of for the pro street bad boys.
uses a GSXR type alternator with a pulley.

Thanks. What user name does he go by?

[blowerbike]

Thanks. What user name does he go by?

i forget...
i have sold him a few stator covers for these outboard charging systems he makes.
if you surf the forum on dragbike dot com i'm sure you can find him.
g00gle GS pro street bike pics "shoot out bikes" and chances are you will see his belt drive system installed on most of them.

[Grimly]

i forget...
i have sold him a few stator covers for these outboard charging systems he makes.
if you surf the forum on dragbike dot com i'm sure you can find him.
g00gle GS pro street bike pics "shoot out bikes" and chances are you will see his belt drive system installed on most of them.

Ok, thanks for that. I'll have a look.
(edit)
Found him - Anthony Consorte...

http://www.dragbike.com/photogallerys/03rock_race1/248-4818_IMG.htm

That's quite a neat looking casing and would allow me to mount the alternator up and to the rear, I believe.

[Grimly]

He (Anthony Consorte) doesn't do 850 case sizes and isn't too sure of the longevity of the unit, either, being designed for bikes which will be short burst, run around a bit then likely stripped a bit - or at least not al that far from base, kind of thing.
I see his point - I'm looking for something that, while not fit and forget, should be capable of car-type levels of stability and bearing life.

[blowerbike]

He (Anthony Consorte) doesn't do 850 case sizes and isn't too sure of the longevity of the unit, either, being designed for bikes which will be short burst, run around a bit then likely stripped a bit - or at least not al that far from base, kind of thing.
I see his point - I'm looking for something that, while not fit and forget, should be capable of car-type levels of stability and bearing life.

i'm sure you can make something..maybe a right side forward mount belt driven off of the advance unit somehow.
i have front and rear mount mallory magnito's that run a small cogged belt.
seems doable with a little imagination.

[posplayr]

Anthony Corsette on this site makes what you speak of for the pro street bad boys.
uses a GSXR type alternator with a pulley.

I guess I'm missing the point of running an alternator on something that could be total loss. If not total loss why the big charging issues and added weight to go to an external alternator? Is it to remove the rotating mass from the crank by down sizing the pulley to the alternator?

Maybe the pulley is just designed to slip at high acceleration?

[blowerbike]

in the pro street class i believe you must have a charging motorcycle with working lights and self starting ect..
getting several pounds off the end of the crank i would think add a little hp and maybe less stress on the crank itself.. anthony would be the one to answer this question correctly as i have never built or ran this class.

[posplayr]

in the pro street class i believe you must have a charging motorcycle with working lights and self starting ect..
getting several pounds off the end of the crank i would think add a little hp and maybe less stress on the crank itself.. anthony would be the one to answer this question correctly as i have never built or ran this class.

Ok makes sense; I also bet it starts to slip on high accell or perhaps there is a clutch to dis engage the alternator.

[blowerbike]

i believe it has a cog belt like my magnito's.
now maybe....there me be a switch to stop the charging from happening to let the alt. just free wheel and not rob any power during a pass.
then again i'm just guessing but i'm pretty sure it does not have a v belt.

been looking for pics the last few minutes...no go....grrrrr

[posplayr]

i believe it has a cog belt like my magnito's.
now maybe....there me be a switch to stop the charging from happening to let the alt. just free wheel and not rob any power during a pass.
then again i'm just guessing but i'm pretty sure it does not have a v belt.

been looking for pics the last few minutes...no go....grrrrr

Yea a slipping vbelt would be a screeching monster. A clutch would be better. It is not so much the electrical load which is a fractional hp it is the rotational inertia of trying to spin the crank with additional mass of an alternator. I'm guessing but it just seems that the alternator has as much moment of inertia unless it is on a clutch to dis engage during the run.

Maybe edumacated Guess but a streach never theless