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  • Fjbj40
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    • Oct 2012
    • 1221
    • Dartmouth Nova Scotia

    #16
    Originally posted by posplayr
    If I had an extra $1K, that is what I would do. Strip the frame, get it braced and then powdercoated. I don't have bracing on my GS with 18" radials, GSXR 41mm RSU forks/brace and a bandit swing arm and it is pretty stable but in hard cornering at say 80-90 mph it gets a little unsettling but nothing dramatic. In a straight line no issues.
    The frame bracing cost me about $200.00. I cut and fit and tack welded the tubing. Took it to a tig welder for finishing and I then painted it with International Perfection poly urethane paint along with the wheels at the same time. If I choose to powder coat then it would have been $500.00 more. I have a down draft paint booth where I teach so painting is the most intelligent option.

    Daryl
    1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
    1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

    I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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    • posplayr
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      • Tucson Az

      #17
      Originally posted by Fjbj40
      The frame bracing cost me about $200.00. I cut and fit and tack welded the tubing. Took it to a tig welder for finishing and I then painted it with International Perfection poly urethane paint along with the wheels at the same time. If I choose to powder coat then it would have been $500.00 more. I have a down draft paint booth where I teach so painting is the most intelligent option.

      Daryl
      Looks good.

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      • philosopheriam
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        • Oct 2013
        • 730
        • Aurora, IL

        #18
        Originally posted by Fjbj40
        The frame bracing cost me about $200.00. I cut and fit and tack welded the tubing. Took it to a tig welder for finishing and I then painted it with International Perfection poly urethane paint along with the wheels at the same time. If I choose to powder coat then it would have been $500.00 more. I have a down draft paint booth where I teach so painting is the most intelligent option.

        Daryl
        Was test fitting of your tank required when you did "c" ?

        Yes, I know, I ask a lot of questions....
        Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
        Ren? Descartes

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        • Fjbj40
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          • Oct 2012
          • 1221
          • Dartmouth Nova Scotia

          #19
          Originally posted by philosopheriam
          Was test fitting of your tank required when you did "c" ?

          Yes, I know, I ask a lot of questions....
          Only after I had it welded in, then a few light blows with a hammer and it fit just perfectly

          There is a picture in my build that shows this minor clearance.
          1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
          1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

          I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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          • philosopheriam
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            • Oct 2013
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            #20
            Originally posted by Fjbj40
            Only after I had it welded in, then a few light blows with a hammer and it fit just perfectly

            There is a picture in my build that shows this minor clearance.
            Hmm... that's close - has anyone considered using a piece of flat plate instead. This would eliminate any clearance issues.
            Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
            Ren? Descartes

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            • philosopheriam
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              • Oct 2013
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              #21
              Also, the rectangular tubing you used Fjb looks wider than 1" - correct?
              Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
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              • Fjbj40
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                • Oct 2012
                • 1221
                • Dartmouth Nova Scotia

                #22
                Yes, I started with a piece 3" wide x 1". But finished it is only about 2" at its max width.
                1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
                1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

                I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                • philosopheriam
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                  #23
                  I was thinking of using a piece of rectangular tubing that was .75 on the short side and 1.5 on the tall side with a .120 wall thickness... This would allow the brace to sit "below" the outside of the tube.
                  Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
                  Ren? Descartes

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                    #24
                    I had my 750 frame braced, probably not strictly necessary...





                    Some things to be aware of:

                    1. Access to mount coils was very limited due to A. I needed longer bolts and spacers to make them fit.

                    2. Airbox mounting tabs need removing to fit C. I used channel section for the bracing, if you use 3mm flat steel plate you might be able to retain the airbox mounts

                    3. Make sure you leave the swing arm fitted before welding D

                    4. D does not interfere with the airbox, but it does interfere with the battery box. I modified the battery box by cutting a 30mm section out of it and welding the base back on. This raises the battery by 30mm but there is plenty of room under the seat if you move the toolkit somewhere else, seat hump maybe?

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                    • philosopheriam
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                      • Oct 2013
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Druid
                      I had my 750 frame braced, probably not strictly necessary...





                      Some things to be aware of:

                      1. Access to mount coils was very limited due to A. I needed longer bolts and spacers to make them fit.

                      2. Airbox mounting tabs need removing to fit C. I used channel section for the bracing, if you use 3mm flat steel plate you might be able to retain the airbox mounts

                      3. Make sure you leave the swing arm fitted before welding D

                      4. D does not interfere with the airbox, but it does interfere with the battery box. I modified the battery box by cutting a 30mm section out of it and welding the base back on. This raises the battery by 30mm but there is plenty of room under the seat if you move the toolkit somewhere else, seat hump maybe?
                      Does your tank fit without hitting the edges of "C" ?
                      Cogito ergo sum - "I think, therefore I am"
                      Ren? Descartes

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by philosopheriam
                        I was thinking of using a piece of rectangular tubing that was .75 on the short side and 1.5 on the tall side with a .120 wall thickness... This would allow the brace to sit "below" the outside of the tube.
                        Cut your wall thickness in half, this is a motorcycle not industrial equipment.


                        Mark

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                        • salty_monk
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                          #27
                          I would be inclined to agree... most of the strength comes from the diameter or section of the tube not from the wall thickness.

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                          • posplayr
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by salty_monk
                            I would be inclined to agree... most of the strength comes from the diameter or section of the tube not from the wall thickness.

                            In fact it might just be an optical illusion but I keep seeing a hardening stress riser at the top of the "C" mod. A little flex is actually in order.

                            In my mind it is pretty irrelevant as Tone already described the mods and what section of steel he used.
                            Last edited by posplayr; 07-14-2014, 08:01 PM.

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                            • Fjbj40
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                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1221
                              • Dartmouth Nova Scotia

                              #29
                              I used his recommendations, Tone that is, when I was researching the mods before I did them. He laid out quite a few details and tips for the frame.
                              1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
                              1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

                              I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                              • posplayr
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Fjbj40
                                I used his recommendations, Tone that is, when I was researching the mods before I did them. He laid out quite a few details and tips for the frame.
                                Rare and unusual; using "common sense"

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