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    Thoughts on cruising RPMs?

    Got the 81 750L running well and was wondering today about RPMs at cruise. Seems I can be in 3rd or 5th at 55 no issues either way. What are ya'll thoughts on RPMs while cruising?
    1981 GS750L - Owned since 1990 when graduated high school and since have been discovering all the things not disclosed by seller.
    1983 GS750E - bought in 2016 as a rough runner to use while rebuilding 81L and then to combine with ES to make one good one
    1983 GS750ES - bought in Toronto in 2015 on a lark as a non-runner, missing front cowling and exhaust - If you have a 1983 750ES front cowling let me know! Blue would be nice

    #2
    Cruise in top gear. Downshift for hills or passing.
    1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

    2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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      #3
      sure, but at what point are the RPMs too low. Yeah, I get when it starts to lug/surge its too low but is there another too low or at least lower than "optimum" what ever optimum means?
      1981 GS750L - Owned since 1990 when graduated high school and since have been discovering all the things not disclosed by seller.
      1983 GS750E - bought in 2016 as a rough runner to use while rebuilding 81L and then to combine with ES to make one good one
      1983 GS750ES - bought in Toronto in 2015 on a lark as a non-runner, missing front cowling and exhaust - If you have a 1983 750ES front cowling let me know! Blue would be nice

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        #4
        My guess is that as long as it's not lugging, the lower the revs, the less the wear and the better the gas mileage. I could be off, but not by much.

        Of course, every bike, especially those ridden very conservatively, needs to stretch it's legs and get near redline occasionally. Keeps the innards clean.
        1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

        2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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          #5
          Most GSes seem to work best between 1/2 and 2/3 of redline.

          Your 750 is probably geared so 5000 RPM will get you between 65 and 70 MPH. No problems there.

          In a lower-load situation, like in town, lower revs will work, but if you have to quickly apply throttle to avoid a situation, you simply will not have enough response and will have to downshift to get into a power range. The time it takes to downshift a gear or three just might be the same amount of time it would take you to get out of the situation. No need to cruise through town at 6-7000 RPM, but definitely keep it above 2000.

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            #6
            Kind'f related, why my 2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100 & my "99" & "05" Suzuki Bandit 1200's still have 5 spd., roughly direct dr. in 5th gear, transmissions, while the old mid "80"'s Suzuki & Kawasaki 550cc & 600cc bikes had 6 spd O/D transmissions. My newer bikes seem to need, & would be happier with a the taller O/D gearing, way better than those old 550 & 600cc bikes, that had absolutely no passing power, without down shifting a time or two. Why on earth do the more powerful 1100 & 1200 cc bikes of today still have the 5 spds., & why did the mfg's, back in the 80"s put the 6 spd. O/D's in the much weaker mid sized bikes, when the larger more powerful bikes were much more capable, & actually needed, in my opinion, a taller gear for cruising at a lower rpm. To me, it still doesn't make sense.
            1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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              #7
              My owner's manual states to shift at these intervals,

              1st 0-12mph
              2nd 12-19mph
              3rd 19-25mph
              4th 25-31mph
              5th over 31mph

              That seems too low to shift from 4th to 5th, especially merging onto the highway. Cruising at highway speeds, since my speedo is still wonky, I keep it around 5500 to 6k ish in 5th. 6500rpm's is around 80mph and fuel mileage suffers, but the engine doesn't seem to mind staying there.
              Roger

              Current rides
              1983 GS 850G
              2003 FJR 1300A
              Gone but not forgotten 1985 Rebel 250, 1991 XT225, 2004 KLR650, 1981 GS850G, 1982 GS1100GL, 2002 DL1000, 2005 KLR650, 2003 KLX400

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                #8
                Those are probably break-in numbers.

                On my GS1000s and 1100, I like the feel of accellerating from 2000 or 2500 rpm. Some old roller bearing Porsches had early lower end bearing failures which were blamed on lugging. I figure if it pulls hard, its in its power band, and its OK. For cruising, bine tend to get a harmonic drone over 5500 rpm, so I tend to keep them under 75 or so to avoid that.

                I don't think you are going to hurt it.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Burque73 View Post
                  6500rpm's is around 80mph and fuel mileage suffers, ...
                  Yes, it is, and yes, it does.



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                  mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                  hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                  #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                  #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                  Family Portrait
                  Siblings and Spouses
                  Mom's first ride
                  Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                  (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steve View Post
                    Yes, it is, and yes, it does.



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                    Steve, have you reset the tripometer since 14,000 miles?
                    1981 GS750L - Owned since 1990 when graduated high school and since have been discovering all the things not disclosed by seller.
                    1983 GS750E - bought in 2016 as a rough runner to use while rebuilding 81L and then to combine with ES to make one good one
                    1983 GS750ES - bought in Toronto in 2015 on a lark as a non-runner, missing front cowling and exhaust - If you have a 1983 750ES front cowling let me know! Blue would be nice

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                      #11
                      No, it's still climbing. Maybe not as quickly as I like, but it's not been reset.



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                      sigpic
                      mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
                      hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
                      #1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
                      #2 son: 1980 GS1000G
                      Family Portrait
                      Siblings and Spouses
                      Mom's first ride
                      Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
                      (Click on my username in the upper-left corner for e-mail info.)

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                        #12
                        Most jap air cooled inline 4s like 3-4K as a minimum cruise. I feel like even though they will pull lower than that, you might be doing some damage. My sohc cb750 doesn't charge the battery below 3.5K. They are ment to spin, not lug.

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                          #13
                          I'm lazy and often leave it 5th as I putter thru a 25 mph village zone ...rpms less than 2k and no signs of lugging as I exit. Charging stays above 13 volts even at idle .
                          1981 gs650L

                          "We are all born ignorant, but you have to work hard to stay stupid" Ben Franklin

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                            #14
                            My rule of thumb when putting around town is that I generally pick the gear by dividing the MPH by 10. So 20-30 in second gear, 30-40 in 3rd, and so on.

                            Unless accelerating, as you do. And I try to accelerate a lot.
                            Charles
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                            1979 Suzuki GS850G

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