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  • timebombprod
    Forum Sage
    • Nov 2019
    • 1666
    • spring hill florida

    #1

    Swing arm having gap at mounts

    The video explains the issue all by a minute thirty, but I just show all that's going on with the bike so that's why the video is 3 minutes, anyways i have a gap in my swing arm at its mounts and gap at the rear wheel where it gets mounted with the axle, help me clear this gap!


    Ian

    1982 GS650GLZ
    1982 XS650
  • Suzukian
    Forum Sage
    • Sep 2022
    • 1032
    • Connecticut

    #2
    You would have to remove the tire and shock mount(s) with nothing but the swing arm attached, so you can see the movement. If there is movement, you hope you have swing arm bushings, or the swing arm bolt and nut are loose. Some swingarms don't have bushings, and fixing them is extremely problematic. Either a machine shop gets involved, or you look for a new swingarm. You really should put the model and year to get exact help.

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    • timebombprod
      Forum Sage
      • Nov 2019
      • 1666
      • spring hill florida

      #3
      Is my model not showing up anymore? It's a 1982 gs650glz
      Ian

      1982 GS650GLZ
      1982 XS650

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      • KiwiAlfa156
        Forum Mentor
        • Sep 2012
        • 661
        • New Zealand

        #4
        The gaps are normal . The shaft drive swing arm pivots pins have lock nuts. Plenty of chassis or marine grease that doesn't wash out helps keep the crap out of them. The pivots are screwed in so that the swingarm sits centrally in the frame (i.e. the gap between the swingarm and the pivot and the frame are equal on each side. They are torqued in to the specified tension (important) and then the lock nuts on either side lock the pins in postion.



        The rear axle needs the brake caliper carrier and all the spacer sleeves on it to position the rear wheel correctly on the axle. It'll make sense when the axle bits are on.

        suzuki-gs650gt-1982-z-e01-e02-e04-e15-e16-e17-e18-e21-22-24-25-26-34-rear-wheel_bigsue0120fig-78_7be8.gif
        82 GSX1100SXZ Katana
        82 GSX750SZ Katana
        82 GS650GZ Katana

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        • timebombprod
          Forum Sage
          • Nov 2019
          • 1666
          • spring hill florida

          #5
          thankyou! ill relook at both parts diagrams, and get it correctly this time. after this its just basically motor, carbs, and wiring everything up, i still need to do a little work on my harness but its nothing big.
          Ian

          1982 GS650GLZ
          1982 XS650

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          • Who Dat?
            Forum Mentor
            • Jun 2012
            • 461
            • On the edge.

            #6
            The gaps at the pivot are normal. The G swingarms pivot in tapered roller bearings, the swingarm should be centered between them.

            At the axle, by the time you get the caliper holder and spacers in there, it will be SNUG. In fact, you may have to pry it apart slightly to get everything in.
            If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.

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            • Rob S.
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              Past Site Supporter
              • Dec 2013
              • 9387
              • New York City

              #7
              If it doesn't have bushings, it would have bearings, correct? Or is that just for chain drive? Years ago, I changed the bushings on my CB350 to cure a front wobble, and it was an easy job. Another advantage of chains.
              1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

              2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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              • Suzukian
                Forum Sage
                • Sep 2022
                • 1032
                • Connecticut

                #8
                I didn't realize it was a shaft drive. A much more durable set up. I would refer to Factory Manuals for inspection procedure, but I would think that the gaps are normal, and the tapered roller bearing would have a torque spec for tightening them. You should try and get a Factory Manual to do a proper service, and find the intervals. They can be found online, in .pdf form, and I haven't had to pay for one yet.

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                • timebombprod
                  Forum Sage
                  • Nov 2019
                  • 1666
                  • spring hill florida

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rob S.
                  If it doesn't have bushings, it would have bearings, correct? Or is that just for chain drive? Years ago, I changed the bushings on my CB350 to cure a front wobble, and it was an easy job. Another advantage of chains.
                  yes it has bearings!
                  Ian

                  1982 GS650GLZ
                  1982 XS650

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                  • KiwiAlfa156
                    Forum Mentor
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 661
                    • New Zealand

                    #10
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                    This got deleted, too many attachments apparently.

                    82 GSX1100SXZ Katana
                    82 GSX750SZ Katana
                    82 GS650GZ Katana

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                    • Suzukian
                      Forum Sage
                      • Sep 2022
                      • 1032
                      • Connecticut

                      #11
                      There has to be a torque setting to tighten the pivot shaft.

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                      • timebombprod
                        Forum Sage
                        • Nov 2019
                        • 1666
                        • spring hill florida

                        #12
                        is the torque link still required without the rear brake or is it part of the swingarm itself? its part Classifieds (Road-ready GS's only)
                        Ian

                        1982 GS650GLZ
                        1982 XS650

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                        • Suzukian
                          Forum Sage
                          • Sep 2022
                          • 1032
                          • Connecticut

                          #13
                          According to the pic posted above, the torque arm from the rear brake is separate, but you cannot run the rear brake without it. That 850 in the link you provided is super clean. If it is at the right price, it would be a worthwhile purchase. They had a lot of torque!

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                          • Rich82GS750TZ
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                            • Jun 2018
                            • 5569
                            • Mifflinburg, PA / Land of Tar & Chip

                            #14
                            Originally posted by timebombprod
                            is the torque link still required without the rear brake or is it part of the swingarm itself? its part Classifieds (Road-ready GS's only)
                            Any reason why you would not want to install the rear brake? I know Florida doesn’t have vehicle safety inspections like most other states. So maybe is isn’t technically required. It’s my understanding that you can, legally, put just about anything on the road there. Doesn’t mean you should. I use the adages, “2 is 1, 1 is none”, and “better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it”. Same rules apply to firearms.
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                            • Cipher
                              Forum Sage
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 3129
                              • Toronto Ontario

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ

                              Any reason why you would not want to install the rear brake? I know Florida doesn’t have vehicle safety inspections like most other states. So maybe is isn’t technically required. It’s my understanding that you can, legally, put just about anything on the road there. Doesn’t mean you should. I use the adages, “2 is 1, 1 is none”, and “better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it”. Same rules apply to firearms.
                              When you're a congenital idiot you're reasoning is it looks better and brakes only slow you down.

                              pg 216
                              bearings are tapered
                              torque arm hardware is prone to wear. Shoulder pivot bolt gets grooved. Hole gets ovoid and uneven wear.
                              1983 GS 550 LD
                              2009 BMW K1300s

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