1981 GSX1100 Katana Based Project

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  • Shin-Ken 1074
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    Originally posted by Rob S.

    That is news to me. As long as you don't try and tell me about any carrier-based F-15s. Although, theoretically, it should be possible. Call the Air Force!

    You got any? If we can let Saudi Arabia have them, I know Australia qualifies. Now if only we could situate you in between Taiwan and mainland China. Call the...?
    Yeah nar, Australia went with the F18 instead of the F15.
    Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 07-10-2024, 07:30 AM.

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  • Rob S.
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    Originally posted by Shin-Ken 1074

    Yep, except for the Streak Eagle, all variants of the F15 have a tail hook for land based cable recovery when needed or in training.
    That is news to me. As long as you don't try and tell me about any carrier-based F-15s. Although, theoretically, it should be possible. Call the Air Force!

    You got any? If we can let Saudi Arabia have them, I know Australia qualifies. Now if only we could situate you in between Taiwan and mainland China. Call the...?

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  • Shin-Ken 1074
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    Originally posted by Rob S.
    An F-15 with a tail hook?!?
    Yep, except for the Streak Eagle, all variants of the F15 have a tail hook for land based cable recovery when needed or in training.

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  • Rob S.
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    An F-15 with a tail hook?!?

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  • Shin-Ken 1074
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    Originally posted by Rob S.
    I was just thinking of the McDonnell Douglas F-15 that set the records for altitude and time to altitude. IIRC, it was called the "Streak Eagle," and to save weight it was not painted. Just a thought.
    As far as I know, those records still stand.
    Yeah, the Streak Eagle was a Hot Rod! It was stripped down to the basics with a lot of systems removed to get the weight down:

    no gun pack
    no radar
    no tail hook
    some actuators were removed
    some electronics were removed
    some hydraulic systems were removed
    minimum fuel load
    and of course no paint.

    F-15-Streak-Eagle-aircrews by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
    Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 07-09-2024, 05:39 AM.

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  • Rob S.
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    I was just thinking of the McDonnell Douglas F-15 that set the records for altitude and time to altitude. IIRC, it was called the "Streak Eagle," and to save weight it was not painted. Just a thought.
    As far as I know, those records still stand.

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  • Shin-Ken 1074
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    Bummer, the bad weather has rolled in today, rain and wind so no test ride.

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  • Shin-Ken 1074
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    The modified oil cooler is now in place and waiting for it's test ride tomorrow to check what the temp gauge has to show with the two deflectors fitted.

    Oil cooler 76 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr

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  • Shin-Ken 1074
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    Cooler and brackets are finished and tomorrow they will be installed and a test ride Tuesday with some mates. It will be interesting to see if the lower deflector helps to reduce oil temp, being the first design it can be changed or modified as needed. If this design works and there is no need to modify the cooler system the steel allen bolts will be swapped for titanium bolts, another few grams lighter.

    Oil cooler 74 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


    Oil cooler 77 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


    Running tally = 183,214 grams.
    Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 07-08-2024, 06:07 AM.

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  • Rob S.
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    Originally posted by Rijko
    Larry nvr2old used that on his S, imho looks super.

    Larry should try inverting his cooler, and running the lines over the engine in the tank tunnel.

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  • Shin-Ken 1074
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    To shave some weight off the oil cooler I am going to delete the lower cooler mounting brackets and make the upper brackets from flat aluminium shaped to make them as light as possible. The cooler is held in place with the upper brackets and the hoses with their metal manifolds are stiff enough to support the cooler so there is no need to use a lower cooler mount. After a test ride minus the lower cooler brackets all is well with no movement of the cooler or hoses. After cleaning the cooler and straightening the core fins to make them a bit more presentable and functional it has now been painted along with the upper brackets and lower deflector.

    Oil cooler 70 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


    Oil cooler 72 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


    Oil cooler 73 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr

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  • Shin-Ken 1074
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    The deflector for the lower edge of the cooler is a prototype to test if it helps reduce the oil temp once there is some airflow. To future proof the deflector it needs to be installed in a way that allows it to be removed and or replaced if needed. Have attached an aluminium strip tapped for 5mm allen bolts that will attach the deflector and make it removable.

    Oil cooler 68 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


    Oil cooler 69 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr

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  • Lorenzo
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    Let the hot oil pass through an alu block cooled, on it's way to the cooler, by a Peltier cell.

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  • Shin-Ken 1074
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    Originally posted by Blower
    You must make a sacrifice on the altar of thermodynamics at the expense of lightness
    Oh no, say it isn't so, lightness must rule!

    If the cooler mods work to manage the oil temp then it will have been worth the effort however, Summer time in five months will be the real world test.

    I have some larger oil coolers to use as Plan D if this one is a no go.
    Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 06-29-2024, 05:58 AM.

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  • Blower
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    It can be impossible to get the engine oil cooled with so tiny oil cooler. I have Bandit 1200 oil cooler on my 1296cc EFE and GSX 600 F oil cooler on my 1360cc supercharged EFE.
    You must make a sacrifice on the altar of thermodynamics at the expense of lightness

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