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  • Blower
    Forum Mentor
    • Jan 2006
    • 365
    • Finland

    #106
    Originally posted by John Kat
    What about the piston to cylinder clearance?
    Same noise with 1166 cc pistons & block and 1360 cc pistons & block. Both have 0.08 mm piston to cylinder clearance.

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    • Guest

      #107
      Originally posted by Blower
      I checked the crank again and #3 connecting rod big end bearing has slightly more play than others.
      But this wouldn't exactly give the "metalllic clanking noise", would it?

      It would be more of a vibration / rumbling noise, wouldn't it?

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      • John Kat
        Forum Sage
        • Oct 2010
        • 1433
        • France

        #108
        Didn't you forget installing the primary drive cushion?
        It happened to me on my GS 1000....

        http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-gs1100-1.../#.UzE88qh5M-g
        sigpicJohn Kat
        My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
        GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020

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        • Blower
          Forum Mentor
          • Jan 2006
          • 365
          • Finland

          #109
          Primary drive cushion was there. When I listening this noise with engine stethoscope, it was loudest on #4 area in the crank case.

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          • Blower
            Forum Mentor
            • Jan 2006
            • 365
            • Finland

            #110
            Originally posted by psyguy
            But this wouldn't exactly give the "metalllic clanking noise", would it?

            It would be more of a vibration / rumbling noise, wouldn't it?

            Worn main bearing gives rumbling noise and con.rod clanking noise. The most of the play in #3 big end found when the crank pin was at 3 o?clock position (oval crank pin?).

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            • Guest

              #111
              It sounds like you're more and more convinced it's the #3 con-rod / big end problem.
              Fixing that would be a quite a bit of work and money. I suppose if you can do the work yourself (?) that would cut the cost a lot.

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              • Blower
                Forum Mentor
                • Jan 2006
                • 365
                • Finland

                #112
                I get repaired spare crankshaft back. It had 3 bad main bearings.

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                • Blower
                  Forum Mentor
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 365
                  • Finland

                  #113
                  I installed crank & transmission in the engine, mounted engine in the frame, continued with installing pistons, cylinder block and clutch. Then I rotated crankshaft full round and it jammed slightly just before #2 & #3 were at tdc. I tried with other clutch basket and same thing. Seems like primary gear on the crank is not in center.
                  Now I need to find inspiration to tear it to parts again.

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                  • posplayr
                    Forum LongTimer
                    GSResource Superstar
                    Past Site Supporter
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 23673
                    • Tucson Az

                    #114
                    Ugh, at least I assume there is still snow on the ground.

                    Complain a lot when you send it back. Maybe you can get something for all the trouble.

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                    • gearhead13

                      #115
                      Originally posted by Blower
                      I installed crank & transmission in the engine, mounted engine in the frame, continued with installing pistons, cylinder block and clutch. Then I rotated crankshaft full round and it jammed slightly just before #2 & #3 were at tdc. I tried with other clutch basket and same thing. Seems like primary gear on the crank is not in center.
                      Now I need to find inspiration to tear it to parts again.
                      I didnt know that was possible, it is held on with bolts, then usually welded. Why did you not get a straight cut gear installed while the crank was apart?

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                      • TeamDar
                        Forum Sage
                        Past Site Supporter
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1137
                        • St. Louis, MO

                        #116
                        Is there a chance that you are mixing a 1100 gear with a 1150 gear? There is a difference.

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                        • Blower
                          Forum Mentor
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 365
                          • Finland

                          #117
                          Originally posted by TeamDar
                          Is there a chance that you are mixing a 1100 gear with a 1150 gear? There is a difference.
                          I don?t think that. That guy who did crank reparation changed only 3 main bearings, no other parts.
                          I did not get straight cut gears installed because it?s not necessary on street.

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                          • Blower
                            Forum Mentor
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 365
                            • Finland

                            #118
                            I opened the engine and checked the primary gears with color. Contact area is narrow and on the other side of the gear.

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                            • Blower
                              Forum Mentor
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 365
                              • Finland

                              #119
                              I get call from crankshaft guy today. Cause for jamming was one dented tooth on crank primary gear. He grind the dent down and now it?s ok. Should get it back tomorrow.

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                              • Blower
                                Forum Mentor
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 365
                                • Finland

                                #120
                                Get the bike ready (I hope). I need only to fill the fuel tank with E85, start the bike and tune fuel map





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