GS1327 Bigbore project

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  • Samsonite

    #121
    Thanks Glen. It really hasn't needed all that much work to get it where it is now. My ES was much cleaner but insides where rough because of the full tank of fuel left in it for 20 years.

    Need to tear the engine down to reseal and build transmission sometime.

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    • Guest

      #122
      9.24 at 141... I weigh 215 suited up... Been trying to get a buddy that weighs 165 to get the bike into the 8's. Might need a little giggle juice...
      Curt

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      • Rob S.
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        #123
        Originally posted by bellucci
        9.24 at 141... I weigh 215 suited up... Been trying to get a buddy that weighs 165 to get the bike into the 8's. Might need a little giggle juice...
        Curt
        That is quite impressive! No wheelie bar?
        1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

        2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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        • headsbikesmopars
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          • Mar 2006
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          • Lexington, Ky USA

          #124
          Bellucci,
          What is your cam grind and what are the specs. Your engine makes very good numbers.

          Terry
          1980 Suzuki GS550E, 1981 Suzuki GS 1100EX all stock, 1983 Suzuki GS 1100EX modified, 1985 GS1150E, 1998 Honda Valkyrie Tourer, 1971 Kawasaki Mach lll 500 H1, 1973 Kawasaki Mach lV 750 H2.

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          • Guest

            #125
            Rob,
            Yes to the wheelie bar... It does back flips otherwise. and Terry, The originals were Andrews G3's. They are no longer made so I went with a Cam Motion G7 intake and G21 exhaust. Its all that I could put in without shortening the guides...
            Curt

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            • Samsonite

              #126
              Pulled the engine for a top end reseal and trans rebuild. Gaskets ordered. Went with a MLS head gasket and .005 base gasket to bump the compression a bit.

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              • Samsonite

                #127
                I guess i have been living a lie!

                Previous owner claimed it was a 1327.

                Pulled the head and what do i have?

                75mm pistons. Shes an 1166. So not only the bike isn't what i had been led to believe but i feel like a complete dumba$$, and Bought $100 in top end gaskets that wont fit!!

                Oh well. It is ported, nice new cams, fresh looking bore, etc.

                If this 1166 runs this strong a 1327 must be pretty gnarly!

                Sorry all.

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                • posplayr
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Samsonite
                  I guess i have been living a lie!

                  Previous owner claimed it was a 1327.

                  Pulled the head and what do i have?

                  75mm pistons. Shes an 1166. So not only the bike isn't what i had been led to believe but i feel like a complete dumba$$, and Bought $100 in top end gaskets that wont fit!!

                  Oh well. It is ported, nice new cams, fresh looking bore, etc.

                  If this 1166 runs this strong a 1327 must be pretty gnarly!

                  Sorry all.
                  And that 1166, will run even better if setup in the sweet spot. I only found that out with the WB02

                  That would explain why you were running around without a cooler.

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                  • Samsonite

                    #129
                    Originally posted by posplayr

                    That would explain why you were running around without a cooler.
                    Yes sir! The 1327 excessive heat mystery continues...

                    28.5 & 24mm valves.....

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                    • Samsonite

                      #130
                      Anyone have any 1166 top end gaskets they can ship out quick??

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                      • Samsonite

                        #131
                        Cams are marked 12042, 2 97, d30, cwc, ep71, d1, c1

                        Cams are identical. No markings on ends or under sprockets.

                        Any ideas?

                        ALSO, On top of all that i found my cam chain guide was snapped in half. Looked like it had been that way for a while. Do i have to split cases again to change it out? I need one if anyone has got one laying around.
                        Last edited by Guest; 07-04-2014, 01:49 PM.

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                        • posplayr
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                          #132
                          Originally posted by Samsonite
                          Yes sir! The 1327 excessive heat mystery continues...

                          28.5 & 24mm valves.....
                          While, larger valves do help, it is the porting where the magic is.

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                          • blowerbike
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                            #133
                            Originally posted by Samsonite
                            Cams are marked 12042, 2 97, d30, cwc, ep71, d1, c1

                            Cams are identical. No markings on ends or under sprockets.

                            Any ideas?

                            ALSO, On top of all that i found my cam chain guide was snapped in half. Looked like it had been that way for a while. Do i have to split cases again to change it out? I need one if anyone has got one laying around.
                            rear guide = remove cylinder.
                            VHR cams i have had was marked on the end "VHR 042".
                            about the valve sizes..there can be no magic if the door is to small.

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                            • posplayr
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                              #134
                              Originally posted by blowerbike
                              rear guide = remove cylinder.
                              VHR cams i have had was marked on the end "VHR 042".
                              about the valve sizes..there can be no magic if the door is to small.
                              well maybe "if" it is too small, but that is a purely hypothetical statement.

                              In specific terms Terry ported this stock 1100E head (27mm intakes) and achieved higher flow rates than my when he ported my 1100E head with 28mm (1150 intake)valves.

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                              Nick 98.9 cfm at 0.350" lift

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                              Me (approx) 95 cfm at 0.350" lift


                              There is more flow with a smaller intake valve. Mien doe have higher flow at lower lift, so maybe a bit more torque.
                              Last edited by posplayr; 07-04-2014, 02:43 PM.

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                              • blowerbike
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                                #135
                                in the end it all goes back to what a person wants and the type of riding/where they want the power to be.
                                i had a 1200 Carpenter engine in a 1150.
                                31/27 valves and it was flat till 6 grand or more then it lost it's mind.
                                it was like a 2 stroke...not ideal street manners at all.
                                it ran a 10.13@139 with stock gearing and wheelbase..a monster to ride.
                                of course 27mm valves would have never made this kind of power...

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