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    Pete did you take readings before honing of the clearance between the piston and cylinder wall? If so, did you also check clearances after the honing? I'm just curious as to how much the honing actually takes off.
    Larry

    '79 GS 1000E
    '93 Honda ST 1100 SOLD-- now residing in Arizona.
    '18 Triumph Tiger 800 (gone too soon)
    '19 Triumph Tiger 800 Christmas 2018 to me from me.
    '01 BMW R1100RL project purchased from a friend.

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      I didn't check the clearance like that no, but I did measure the bores and they were all in spec. I haven't measured afterwards though as they're borrowed tools which I've returned. I don't think I wrote the initial measurements down anywhere either...
      1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
      1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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        Picked up some paint stripper on Friday and set it to work today.

        Forgot to get some brake cleaner though so even though all these bits are now stripped and have had a good start on sanding, there'll be more paint prep required so next weekend will be more of the same rather than painting, fingers crossed for the week after to get the paint done.

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        Also picked up the base, head, and valve cover gaskets on Friday, and while the paint stripper went to work I grabbed out all the bits I've got ready for the top end assembly.

        Started comparing bits with fiches and looks like I've missed a couple of things I think, need to go through a bit more thorougly and order what's missing.

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        One concern I had was comparing the base gasket to the bottom of the barrels, and I thought there was an issue due to the shape and having extra holes in the cylinders beside where the studs go through. After much Googling and looking closer at fiches it looks like everything is ok, but anyone care to confirm it looks right?

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        1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
        1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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          Hey Pete, any luck on getting the engine parts painted up?
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            Unfortunately not Sam, no sooner was I ready to paint than the weather turned against me and the last couple of weekends have been very wet.

            I'll have to revisit the prep work this weekend now given they've been sitting, hopefully get paint done the following weekend.
            1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
            1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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              Still not much to report, weather still wasn't good for painting today but at least I should be prepared for next weekend. I broke out the grey scotchbrite pad and gave the bits a rub down and got them hung up and laid out ready.

              I still have some masking to do for the cylinders yet, and everything will need a good go over with wax and grease remover also.

              The weather prediction looks a little more promising for next weekend too.

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              I also mocked up a loaned set of braided brake lines for the front to figure out the banjo angles and lengths of both lines. I needed to make sure all sat well with the location of the GSX-R750 master and front cowl.

              Clearance is good by the looks at full lock. Left lock does have the left line nudging the front cowl support bracket but it's just a nudge so no issues there.

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              I'll probably try to find a better way to locate the lines against the bottom triple clamp but the cable clamp worked for the mock up.

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              I used masking tape to mark where the end of the banjo bolts will be as that's the measurement the guy at HEL uses to make the lines.

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              Looks like I know what I need now... 20 degree angle on the master end of the banjo fittings and a 765mm and 775mm line plus the rear line, should be able to grab those next pay.

              I'm also going DOT 5 fluid so I can at least get the brakes built soon and get at least a little satisfaction while I play the waiting game to build some more funds back up for the rest.
              1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
              1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                Always good to see progress, Pete. Is the weather too humid to paint the engine?
                1979 GS1000S,

                1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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                  Cheers Larry, will feel good to get it done at last! And yep two weekends in a row of rain and as a result the weekend just gone was very humid. Started to dry out and get nice and sunny today and the forecast for this weekend is good so far, so fingers crossed! I do need to get out there between now and then to finish the masking and give everything a good clean with wax and grease remover too.
                  1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                  1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                    Finally! Perfect painting weather today, so the cylinders, crankcase covers, and camchain tensioner are at last painted.

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                    Untitled by starpoint73, on Flickr

                    I have a nagging feeling my prep on the cylinders wasn't as good as on the crankcases but I guess we'll see how the paint holds up.

                    I also made a bracket to secure the brake lines against the lower triple clamp.

                    I have some steel tube with an inside diameter spot on for the rubber grommets on the loaned brake lines, so I simply cut two lengths of that and welded them to a 1.5mm thick bit of steel bent to shape.

                    I need to file the openings a bit wider yet for the grommets and lines to squeeze in but should do the trick nicely. It'll get some satin black at some point.

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                    Might see if I can get the crankcase off the engine mount and up the right way next weekend so I can start some assembly.
                    1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                    1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                      Toss that factory tensioner. Get a manual tensioner.
                      Or conversely, I saw somewhere, a modified factory one that functioned as a manual tensioner.
                      The Three Horsemen
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                      '83 GS1100ES
                      ‘77 XLCR

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                        I'm not too stressed on it Greg, got plenty of mates with hotted up Kats that still run the stock auto tensioner with no problems.

                        I've got new seals ready to rebuild it and will give it the proper tension and locktite treatment so it should be good to rock and roll.
                        1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                        1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                          fwiw, I repainted my engine with the vht and i am SURE my prep was not as good as yours and it is holding up well 3 years in... Only issues I had were with the paint chipping when bolts got tightened up.... Always good to see progress on this project, looking good!!
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                            Cheers Greg and that's good to know, some of the other guys locally have had good success with it also so fingers crossed mine holds up as well. I also had a few chips when doing the bottom end bolts but I at least expected that due to the paint being soft at that point.

                            I did see a tip on another forum to give the parts a once over with a heatgun which won't do the same cure as proper oven heating, but should at least help with tightening bolts etc. I'll give that a shot especially with the case covers to see if that helps them hold up a bit more while doing the bolts up.
                            1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                            1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                              Hi Pete,
                              Been quite a while since I've been able to check in - took me several hours of reading to "Katch" up!
                              You're doing awesome! Your Kat looks amazing!!! What amazing work you are doing - very inspiring.
                              And, of course, your fellow GS'Rs (and Kat mates) helping with their expert advice.

                              Keep it up and THANK YOU for sharing!!
                              Scott
                              1982 GS1000S #1 bought in 84, #2 gone, #3 in hibernation
                              1983 GS1100ES #1 (bought in 03, July 09 BOM, 65k traded in 17), #2 New daily rider, #3 in hibernation
                              1982 GS1100E Red #1 - Original owner, sold in 93, #2 (Red) sold in 20 to Andy B
                              2018 Gold Wing Tour - new out of the crate 1st non-Suzuki in 38 years
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                                Cheers Scott! It's felt a bit like I've been getting nowhere lately so it's nice to have made some progress again. Between this forum, the Katana Australia forum, and another UK based one I'm on there's heaps of advice and help around and it's absolutely awesome, makes life so much easier when I'm encountering stuff that's new to me and I'm just not sure on.

                                As for today, it may not look like much but it was an exciting day for me... the motor is upright on a trolley ready to start top end assembly!

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                                I also got some satin black on my brake line bracket for the lower triple clamp.

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                                I've figured out all the missing fasteners (I think) to get the case covers on so will have them in hand soon.

                                I also have a week off from the 19th November which should see me heading over to HEL for some brake lines as well as picking up a few other bits and pieces, so hopefully there'll be some decent progress over the coming weeks.
                                1982 GS450E - The Wee Beastie
                                1984 GSX750S Katana 7/11 - Kit Kat - BOTM May 2020

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                                Katana 7/11 thread: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...84-Katana-7-11

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