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  • Burque73
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    • Mar 2016
    • 4733
    • Albuquerque, NM

    #1

    picking up the pieces 81 gs850g

    Well, I finally got the gs850g I had wanted. Some assembly required though The PO had removed most of the brake systems, top end, and started to dismantle the head. I got all of the parts meticulously bagged and labeled, a manual (haynes published a year before this bike was made) a windshield, and several extras.

    Looks like I won't be riding for a while, but will have fun wrenching!




    I'll definitely be seeking the wisdom you all have been so generous to share, thanks in advance to all of you!
    Roger

    '83 GS850G Daily rider
    '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress
  • ShadowFocus603

    #2
    I like the paint. Do you know why PO felt it necessary to strip the bike to such a degree? Hope it's a relatively easy reassembly for you.

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    • Burque73
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      #3
      Well it was a snowball effect. As far as the head, the spark plugs stripped leading to helicoils on two plugs, some exhaust bolts also broke off, and valve oil seals were going to be changed. He started removing valves and got a few out before he stopped. They are labeled which cylinder with springs and seats in ziplock bags. Looks like maybe the seals were bad and it was burning oil. There is a lot of black yuck on the pistons and under the head. He started to clean the head but didn't finish. Is it worth repairing this head, or should I just pick up a new one?


      It won't let me post another pic. This is frustrating. So many hours spent trying to share pics. I really want to share what I'm working on but it doesn't work. I just set up a photobucket account and loaded a ton of pics onto it. How do you carry them over to this forum?
      Roger

      '83 GS850G Daily rider
      '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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      • Burque73
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        #4
        I just tried to add another pic. I watched the file load, the window closed, but the pic must have been lost in cyberspace. When I tried again it loaded and the red, file failed icon appeared.

        Help please
        Roger

        '83 GS850G Daily rider
        '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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        • Burque73
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          #5
          Well looky there, it did attach the pic. Here's another, pistons this time. I'll lift the cylinder and replace the gasket underneath. There are no signs of wear on cylinder walls, just black carbon on pistons. Should I leave the rings, or change them anyway? Maybe clean the carbon?
          Roger

          '83 GS850G Daily rider
          '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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          • Burque73
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            #6
            Check out this oil filter cover. It doesn't look anything like my 82 1100L's. Is this a temp sensor?
            Roger

            '83 GS850G Daily rider
            '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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            • Steve
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              • Jun 2005
              • 35927
              • southwest oHIo

              #7
              You can post more than one picture at a time if you host them somewhere like Photobucket. Then you copy the IMG link for that picture and post it here in your thread. You can post up to 10 pictures per post that way.

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              • Burque73
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                #8
                Nice, I'll try that. Thank you
                Roger

                '83 GS850G Daily rider
                '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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                • Burque73
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ShadowFocus603
                  I like the paint. Do you know why PO felt it necessary to strip the bike to such a degree? Hope it's a relatively easy reassembly for you.

                  My wife has been wearing this orange and white shirt, and had a vitamin water drink in an orange and white bottle, then I saw this bike on Craigslist. It's like she was sending me subliminal messages to get this one!

                  It will be very challenging for me to reassemble it. With the shop manual on Cliff's website, the Haynes manual, and the wealth of info on this site I'll be fine. May take a while though. I just really wanted a GS850G. Gotta be careful what I ask for huh?
                  Roger

                  '83 GS850G Daily rider
                  '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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                  • Burque73
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                    #10
                    Here is the threaded insert for the spark plugs. There are two and they're not tightened yet.
                    Roger

                    '83 GS850G Daily rider
                    '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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                    • ShadowFocus603

                      #11
                      The head and pistons look pretty good to me. Maybe just lap the valves so you have clean seats.

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                      • Burque73
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                        #12






                        I'm still trying to figure out the photobucket thing. Hope this works.

                        I hadn't read about lapping valves yet. I'll keep digging and reading. Took my wife to the mall yesterday and while she was looking at shoes I was browsing the forum. Never thought I'd say this but she should really slow down sometimes!
                        Roger

                        '83 GS850G Daily rider
                        '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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                        • Burque73
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steve
                          You can post more than one picture at a time if you host them somewhere like Photobucket. Then you copy the IMG link for that picture and post it here in your thread. You can post up to 10 pictures per post that way.

                          .
                          Thank you!!
                          That's much better. The other way felt like waiting for the color on the Polorid picture to show up!!
                          Roger

                          '83 GS850G Daily rider
                          '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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                          • Burque73
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                            #14
                            One reason I decided to go ahead and purchase this bike was the electrical mods the PO had done. He is an aircraft mechanic and had done some really neat work to the bike. There are relays for the ignition, headlight, and horn circuits. The horn on my 82 1100L left a lot to be desired, so I was happy to hear this one. He also installed another fuse panel just for the relays, re-routed the headlight loop from the stator straight to the R/R, completed the single point ground, installed a (daytime) pulsing headlight, and a flux capacitor (which is what makes time travel possible) OK not really but imagine!!!



                            Roger

                            '83 GS850G Daily rider
                            '82 GS1100GK Work in (slow) progress

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                            • Nessism
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                              #15
                              One of the photos seems to suggest that when the spark plug hole was enlarged for the threaded insert that they hit the valve seats. If that's the case I'd ditch the head and start searching ebay for a replacement. Be sure to get a 1980 and newer head, the 1979 version had smaller intake ports because those bikes came with VM type carbs.

                              Also, if the valve seats are okay and you just need an insert, I'd try to find a machine shop that can install Timeserts for you. They are much more durable than using helicoils or auto parts store spark plug repair threads.
                              Last edited by Nessism; 05-30-2016, 09:35 AM.
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