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    #91
    I have noted previously the old wheel size. I made the mistake of putting it in big letters

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    My main reason for swapping it over were
    1. Get a better range of modern tyres to use
    2. I was getting near the end of project so needed something else to fiddle with
    3. Learn something new. Once you have removed and re-installed a wheel 20 times it becomes easy

    I could have put a 150/60-17 tyre on but there were only new ones available and that was going to cost an additional $120 over a slightly used 160/60-17 so the wider tyre won. To be fair I hadn't even thought about chain clearance at that point.

    Anyway I have moved the rear wheel over to the right far enough now that I can put the wider Cush drive from the original GSXR-750 wheel back on and remove the spacers. Chain clearance is now a massive 6mm or so.

    Another test ride and the bike really does feel different now. Going through corners it tips into them just like I was riding on my 2010 GSXR-1000. And that is why you want to swap out the old forks and wheels for new (relatively) ones. My 3rd loop of my test course (about 15km) and i am starting to scrape my toes on some corners, not intentionally, I just have more confidence when leaning in.
    And I still have the original rear shock in so that is probably causing some issues. The problem is new ones cost $799 locally.
    80 GSX1100 ET
    82 GSX750 EZ
    84 GSX1150 ES
    86 GSX750 ES
    10 GSXR1000

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      #92
      I have a Ducati M900 shock in place of the original. Nearly a bolt in except that I had to mount it upside down and it was recommended to use the GS spring which I did. It was a whopping $60 used.
      sigpic
      When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"

      Glen
      -85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
      -Rusty old scooter.
      Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
      https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
      https://www.flickr.com/photos/152267...7713345317771/

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        #93
        I'd like to go to larger rubber in the future the 16" front doesn't leave many options for tire selection.

        I don't think I'd need to go to as large 160 on the rear but Ensure is demonstrating it can be done.
        1979 CBX, AW440 Maico, GS1150EF
        http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1447792849

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          #94
          For the Number plate light I have bought a 10cm long LED striplight with connector

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          and found an old piece of plastic tube to mount it in

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          I then glued it over the holes I had drilled in Lens, double checking I had the LEDs pointing in the correct direction

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          Drill a hole to get the wires out

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          A quick bench test

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          Now to get it back on the bike
          80 GSX1100 ET
          82 GSX750 EZ
          84 GSX1150 ES
          86 GSX750 ES
          10 GSXR1000

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            #95
            That worked out nicely. When I modified my tail assembly I wondered why didn't Suzuki do exactly what you have done, it seemed the easy solution rather than the complex monstrosity they produced.
            1979 CBX, AW440 Maico, GS1150EF
            http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1447792849

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              #96
              Originally posted by Big Block
              Yeah but 35 years ago it was the "thing". If you look at an 84 Corvette or Dodge Daytona they match the styling of these bikes pretty much.
              the part in question wasn't styling feature, it was a clumsy attempt to cast light on the plate to meet road legal requirements it was finished in flat black in order to obscure it. My 79 CBX has exactly the same set up as what ensure has manufactured here.
              1979 CBX, AW440 Maico, GS1150EF
              http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1447792849

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                #97
                I thought I would try and measure bikes weight to see what sort of difference I have made. I pushed bike up onto some 6x1 timber and thought if I put some scales front and rear I could measure it in 2 halves fairly accurately by just pushing the bike back & forth a bit.

                Front End first

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                138kg. Unfortunately the limit on scales (in small print) was 130kg on scales and now I just get Error message so this is yet to be finalised.

                here is updated drawing of wheel installation with new Cush Drive and different spacers for anyone who might want to replicate this method

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                80 GSX1100 ET
                82 GSX750 EZ
                84 GSX1150 ES
                86 GSX750 ES
                10 GSXR1000

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                  #98
                  Start with factory dry weight 524 lbs and deduct weight of any part removed , add back whatever after market you replace it with.
                  Oem exhaust weighs a hefty 34 lbs if you don't have them to weigh.
                  I haven't done a calculation lately for my efe but I believe it's about 480 lbs/ 218kg
                  1979 CBX, AW440 Maico, GS1150EF
                  http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1447792849

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                    #99
                    I weighed my 11E once by separately weighing the front and back with a bathroom scale. Seems like it works because the total was very close to the weight Cycle World listed in 1982.
                    1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                    2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                      So I bought some new bathroom scales (180kg max) and tried again, I got the following readings

                      Front - 120kg
                      Rear - 118kg

                      Total 238kg

                      Bear in mind that this is wet weight, I have about 14 litres of petrol and 3.5 litres of oil in there so if we subtract that at 1kg/litre I get about 220kg

                      Dry Weight from manual for a ES is 237kg so I think I am pretty close to accurate based on what I have removed
                      80 GSX1100 ET
                      82 GSX750 EZ
                      84 GSX1150 ES
                      86 GSX750 ES
                      10 GSXR1000

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                        The front fork leak is getting worse so I have started on replacing those

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                        Got the first fork off and realised I need a tool for inserting seals back into fork so have ordered that. should be here early next week

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                        You cant see it in photo but i do have bricks and timber supporting sump on RHS as well as jack. The exhaust isn't actually touching the timber.
                        80 GSX1100 ET
                        82 GSX750 EZ
                        84 GSX1150 ES
                        86 GSX750 ES
                        10 GSXR1000

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                          Fork Seals are done which means the bike is pretty much complete. Just needs to be re-vinned to make it road legal.
                          I thought I would just finish up with a bit of a cost summary to enlighten those that may wish to do something similar.

                          As you will remember from the first post I bought this bike and an 1150EFE together in 1 lot with a bunch of spares
                          Cost - $900
                          Truck hire $100
                          I have since sold 2 of the spare engines for $650 and a spare airbox for $70

                          This makes total purchase cost of $280 so $140 per bike

                          In terms of costs for upgrades / repairs to bike in original configuration there is
                          Paint - $140 4 cans, 3 colours + clear coat
                          Engine work getting spark plug removed / head plane / heli-coils - $450

                          So we are up to approx $750

                          It was only the upgrading to front and rear ends that caused costs to escalate

                          I had the USD front end and wheel lying around but they had cost $700
                          Front wheel discs, calipers & front master cylinder - $200
                          Front tyre - $120
                          Speedo cable & drive - $60
                          Rear wheel - $130
                          Rear tyre - $120
                          Rear caliper and mounting bracket - $75
                          530 Chain conversion, chain + 2 sprockets - $300

                          So all up - approx $2500

                          Excellent deal I reckon and all the wheel / suspension upgrades can be transferred to another bike if it blows up or i want to sell it.
                          And I still have a bunch of spare parts

                          I will start another thread on the 1150 EFE upgrade shortly. Not nearly as convoluted as this one as it is staying near original. I have done a bit already so wont take long to finish
                          80 GSX1100 ET
                          82 GSX750 EZ
                          84 GSX1150 ES
                          86 GSX750 ES
                          10 GSXR1000

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                            Certainly couldn’t buy one that nice for that. Nice work.
                            sigpic
                            When consulting the magic 8 ball for advice, one must first ask it "will your answers be accurate?"

                            Glen
                            -85 1150 es - Plus size supermodel.
                            -Rusty old scooter.
                            Other things I like to photograph.....instagram.com/gs_junkie
                            https://www.instagram.com/glen_brenner/
                            https://www.flickr.com/photos/152267...7713345317771/

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                              Well done, yeah you couldn't buy a finished project for that.
                              1979 CBX, AW440 Maico, GS1150EF
                              http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...ine=1447792849

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