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    #61
    Originally posted by Buffalo Bill View Post
    I don't get using a SV650 on track. It's got the right weight, wheels and tires, but only 70HP??
    You corner just as well, but 300 ft later you're left behind.
    The SV650 is a GREAT track bike. Set up right they handle incredibly well, are a ton of fun to ride and are pretty easy on tires.
    The HP isn't an issue, at a track day it's irrelevant, and if you're racing you'll be in classes with bikes that have similar performance.
    '20 Ducati Multistrada 1260S, '93 Ducati 750SS, '01 SV650S, '07 DL650, '01 DR-Z400S, '80 GS1000S, '85 RZ350

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      #62
      Thruxton vs BMW R NineT

      Sorry Rich!
      Here's a couple retro new bike$ that I'd like to track day. Meanwhile I'll just have to joy ride my GS on interstate off ramps.
      "Only fe' collected the old way, has any value." from His Majesty O'Keefe (1954 film)
      1982 GS1100G- road bike, body, seat and suspension modded
      1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine) track bike, much re-engineered
      1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane; hooligan bike, restored

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        #63
        Originally posted by RichDesmond View Post
        The SV650 is a GREAT track bike. Set up right they handle incredibly well, are a ton of fun to ride and are pretty easy on tires.
        The HP isn't an issue, at a track day it's irrelevant, and if you're racing you'll be in classes with bikes that have similar performance.
        It's not always the fastest vehicle that wins. I remember watching a Trans-Am race in the 70's. Lots of NASCAR guys there that day, lots of high horsepower american cars. And Paul Newman in a 240Z. He gained about a second a lap on the 2.5 mile 10 turn course, and with 2 or 3 laps to go came around turn 10 in front. Learned a big lesson that day. Fastest is not necessarily quickest. The SV650 is a good enough track bike to have its own class...
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        09 Kaw C14 Rocket powered Barcalounger
        1983 GS1100e
        82\83 1100e Frankenbike
        1980 GS1260
        Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G

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          #64
          I went faster on a VF500F than on my GS1000/1100 with pipes and carbs. Plus it helped me learn not to to rely on HP. But it sounded like a....Honda
          Current Rides: 82 GS1100E, 00 Triumph 955 Speed Triple, 03 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 01 Honda GL1800, '15 Kawasaki 1000 Versys
          Past Rides: 72 Honda SL-125, Kawasaki KE-175, 77 GS750 with total yosh stage 1 kit, 79 GS1000s, 80 GS1000S, 82 GS750e,82 GS1000S, 84 VF500f, 86 FZR600, 95 Triumph Sprint 900,96 Triumph Sprint, 97 Triumph Sprint, 01 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 07 Triumph Tiger 1050, 01 Yam YFZ250F
          Work in progress: 78 GS1000, unknown year GS1100ES

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            #65
            Last summer I went to the Quaker City Motorsports Park just outside Salem, Oh for the Vintage Motorcycle Drags. There where quite a few bikes out there, a parts swap meet and camping was included in the entry for the weekend ($30) with a live band on Saturday night. There was everything from an Ossa 125 up to a H-D Panhead powered powered monstrosity with a 12" wide tire on back with wheelie bars. Anyone with a helmet, long pants and a leather jacket could make a run down the track! Looks like they're doing it again in late August this year. https://quakercitymotorsportspark.com/
            1980 Yamaha XS1100G (Current bike)
            1982 GS450txz (former bike)
            LONG list of previous bikes not listed here.

            These aren't my words, I just arrange them

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              #66
              First trackday of the year next Friday & Saturday @ The Ridge. Will be the 5th & 6th day on the bike. Whoop!
              Sorry about large pic. 1st time using flickr on a computer, does not seem to work from my Android phone.
              OPRT_June_24_2018_Ridge-2373 by Carter Turk, on Flickr
              GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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                #67
                Excellent photograph with Mt. Rainer in the back ground!

                If I had a GS1100E I'd have it on the track.
                My 82 GS1100G with it's shaft assembly, steel swing arm and rear wheel with a big steel gear inside, just ain't practical for track.
                I'm deeply committed to continuing with my 1990 GSX Katana 1100-R as a track bike, and at 29 years old, it is a vintage bike.
                Last edited by Buffalo Bill; 05-03-2019, 05:37 PM.
                "Only fe' collected the old way, has any value." from His Majesty O'Keefe (1954 film)
                1982 GS1100G- road bike, body, seat and suspension modded
                1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine) track bike, much re-engineered
                1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane; hooligan bike, restored

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by limeex2 View Post
                  I went faster on a VF500F than on my GS1000/1100 with pipes and carbs. Plus it helped me learn not to to rely on HP. But it sounded like a....Honda
                  I road raced a VF500F in a 750 class and wound up on the podium every time. Great little bikes..faster then most people think, and handled so good. Loved riding it. Wish I had one.
                  1979 GS1000S,

                  1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Buffalo Bill View Post
                    I'm deeply committed to continuing with my 1990 GSX Katana 1100-R as a track bike, and at 29 years old, it is a vintage bike.
                    Honestly thought my next bike would've been oilcooled gixxer, always liked the 91 1100.
                    I'd probably still be riding the Kat too, If I hadn't destroyed the pistons.
                    The new trackbike is old by todays standards, but only 15 years old.
                    Didn't think I'd be financially able to make a 21 year jump in technology, but this bike was cheap!
                    GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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                      #70
                      Another thing we all know is; stay with the same bike so you know it very well, because you'll have fewer crashes and ride better/faster.
                      Stated by Dovi, Rossi and some other MotoGP leaders in this May 2nd press conference, (go to 23:30 for the question and answers).
                      "Only fe' collected the old way, has any value." from His Majesty O'Keefe (1954 film)
                      1982 GS1100G- road bike, body, seat and suspension modded
                      1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine) track bike, much re-engineered
                      1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane; hooligan bike, restored

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                        #71
                        Not your average track day…

                        Lots of fast old guys, with money…
                        "Only fe' collected the old way, has any value." from His Majesty O'Keefe (1954 film)
                        1982 GS1100G- road bike, body, seat and suspension modded
                        1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine) track bike, much re-engineered
                        1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane; hooligan bike, restored

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                          #72
                          Woh, my 1990 GSX750F qualifies for AHRMA???

                          Looking at this years AHRMA handbook, my 1990 GSX750F Katana will be acceptable as a GSXR 750 including all my frame mods!!!
                          Just have to put the 750cc back into it. That's alotto work but interesting, can be done.
                          No real weight disadvantage either.
                          Tech inspection will take a close look at my frame handiwork, … need to pass that.
                          "Only fe' collected the old way, has any value." from His Majesty O'Keefe (1954 film)
                          1982 GS1100G- road bike, body, seat and suspension modded
                          1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine) track bike, much re-engineered
                          1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane; hooligan bike, restored

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                            #73
                            Got my 1st official trackday in on Friday.
                            Well I got 3 laps in May before my bike blew up on the track.
                            After wrenching furiously 2 days before to do a head gasket after it froze in the garage over winter with no antifreeze.
                            5 oil/filter changes, 8 coolant system flushes in the last month. This bike is not street legal, so riding for testing purposes is a risk.
                            I took it out the Indian Reservation near me where apparently Steve Baker did some testing of his own back in the day, to do a shakedown run to see if everything held together after the whole engine oil mixed with water. Had a slight weep out the back of the head gasket, so I changed that at the last minute.
                            I screwed up ording it online, waited 5 days for it to arrive, only to find it wasn't shipped or ordered. Ugh.
                            So I had to 2nd day air it, which was $40 painful.

                            Probably got 55-60 laps over 7 20 minute sessions.
                            The bike seemed happy, but the uncertainty the first session to reliability made it difficult to focus on riding.
                            I went the whole day without missing a shift 1up 5 down which was unusual for me, though I've only ridden the bike 6 day on the track.
                            GS\'s since 1982: 55OMZ, 550ES, 750ET, (2) 1100ET\'s, 1100S, 1150ES. Current ride is an 83 Katana. Wifes bike is an 84 GS 1150ES

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                              #74
                              God damn good for you!!!
                              Just passed on a basket case 77 CB750. Really wanted it for AHRMA racing, but no room for another project.
                              Will be looking again at the end of summer when owners get desperate to move unwanted bikes.
                              Last edited by Buffalo Bill; 06-22-2019, 09:09 PM.
                              "Only fe' collected the old way, has any value." from His Majesty O'Keefe (1954 film)
                              1982 GS1100G- road bike, body, seat and suspension modded
                              1990 GSX750F-(1127cc '92 GSXR engine) track bike, much re-engineered
                              1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane; hooligan bike, restored

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                                #75
                                Well done. I'd heard about the Steve Baker test track, lol. Might have been in an interview with a UK magazine.

                                I still think you were a tad lucky to get away with the freeze-up as you have. We saw a lot of grey imports from japan with condensation and freeze damage from sitting outside for sometimes years before shipping here. Typically the bearing shells, being porous, absorb water - and when it freezes, a blister forms and pops off the bearing surface. The sharp edges of this pit act to strip the oil film - and very quickly, it's stuffed.
                                The GSXR1000 I stripped post freeze recently, I soaked the shells in methylated spirit to remove any water that may have been absorbed.

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