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  • bobgroger
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    • Jun 2013
    • 2483
    • Enumclaw, WA

    #1

    Clutch basket mods

    I wanted to have a look at my clutch before I go out and abuse it. As I suspected from the noise, the big nut was loose and quite a wobble to the basket. Now that I have it apart, is an APE nut and welding overkill for a stock motor, or should I do it anyway? Do one of you guys (Ray, Trippivot) provide mods if needed? Small springs are tight, big springs have about 2mm radial play. Rivets are tight, no discernible grooves in basket. Really, this thing looks nearly new....
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    09 Kaw C14 Rocket powered Barcalounger
    1983 GS1100e
    82\83 1100e Frankenbike
    1980 GS1260
    Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G
  • blowerbike
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    #2
    which model?
    80-83 E model?
    the HD backing plate kits are insurance...
    if you ever have one explode....well....go read about the V&H give away bike.
    Last edited by blowerbike; 04-15-2016, 12:00 AM.

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    • rapidray
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      • Oct 2006
      • 8195
      • So Cal

      #3
      Yes, install the nut, & I build the clutch hubs also when you are ready to build one.
      Ray.

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      • bobgroger
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        #4
        Originally posted by rapidray
        Yes, install the nut, & I build the clutch hubs also when you are ready to build one.
        Ray.
        Thanks guys. I will get the nut now, looking at a couple baskets on epay, maybe I can get one cheap. Otherwise it sounds like a worthwhile thing to do. I see now what you mean http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-1983-SU...hU1oDA&vxp=mtr
        Last edited by bobgroger; 04-15-2016, 11:44 AM.
        sigpic
        09 Kaw C14 Rocket powered Barcalounger
        1983 GS1100e
        82\83 1100e Frankenbike
        1980 GS1260
        Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G

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        • trippivot
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          • Aug 2006
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          • Des Moines , IA

          #5
          yes the backing plate is good insurance - I can do it - but on a scale of 1-10 it is about a 4 after you have the tools press, welder, hand grinder
          SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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          • bobgroger
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            #6
            So anyone recognize this work? Picked up a truckload of stuff from a fellow GSR member locally, this was among the items. Seems to have upgraded springs but the stock backing plate, and retaining tabs added. What do you think?

            sigpic
            09 Kaw C14 Rocket powered Barcalounger
            1983 GS1100e
            82\83 1100e Frankenbike
            1980 GS1260
            Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G

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            • rapidray
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              • Oct 2006
              • 8195
              • So Cal

              #7
              I have NO idea why anyone would go the the expense of springs & tabs, & that amount of work, & use the STOCK backing plate!!! A thicker backing plate is the entire point of the whole modification!!!!
              Ray.

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              • kurt112345

                #8
                I would like to chime in, since I sold that stuff to him, rapid ray I bought that hub from you...

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                • kurt112345

                  #9
                  pretty sure that is a hd backing plate, looks thicker then the one next to it in your picture, seem to stick out further where the tabs lock in. whats the distance between the backing plate and ring gear on both?

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                  • trippivot
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                    • Aug 2006
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                    #10
                    DSC00184.jpg

                    notice the difference of the spring windows.
                    SUZUKI , There is no substitute

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                    • bobgroger
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                      • Jun 2013
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by kurt112345
                      pretty sure that is a hd backing plate, looks thicker then the one next to it in your picture, seem to stick out further where the tabs lock in. whats the distance between the backing plate and ring gear on both?
                      I measured the distance from the plate to the gear, same on both. No worries, I will just treat it as a slightly improved stocker. I am not unhappy with my purchase, at least I got the chrome moly nut... I noticed when I first looked at it that it looked like a stock plate, I think I mentioned it. I will just keep looking. I have enough bikes now that one can be a dedicated racer I can trailer to the track.
                      sigpic
                      09 Kaw C14 Rocket powered Barcalounger
                      1983 GS1100e
                      82\83 1100e Frankenbike
                      1980 GS1260
                      Previous 65 Suzuki 80 Scrambler, 76 KZ900, 02 GSF1200S, 81 GS1100e, 80 GS850G

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                      • rapidray
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                        • Oct 2006
                        • 8195
                        • So Cal

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kurt112345
                        I would like to chime in, since I sold that stuff to him, rapid ray I bought that hub from you...
                        I don't even remember having a hub like that. How long ago was this? I know for a fact I didn't build it as I have never used the tabs like those. I know Vance & Hines built some that way back in the day. When did I sell this hub to you, I go through so much stuff I really don't remember it.
                        Ray.

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                        • rapidray
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bobgroger
                          I measured the distance from the plate to the gear, same on both. No worries, I will just treat it as a slightly improved stocker. I am not unhappy with my purchase, at least I got the chrome moly nut... I noticed when I first looked at it that it looked like a stock plate, I think I mentioned it. I will just keep looking. I have enough bikes now that one can be a dedicated racer I can trailer to the track.
                          That hub will work fine in a street bike, that isn't a big motor. I just wouldn't throw a LOT of HP at it.
                          Ray.

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                          • kurt112345

                            #14
                            It was back around mid 2014 when I bought from you

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                            • kurt112345

                              #15
                              Ray 8/16/14 to be exact I never clear pm box, probley should

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