2020 IOM TT Cancelled

[Rob S.]

Let's not turn the Racing forum into a Vortex mud fight.

I'd much rather Spot Trains.

[rgstu]

Moto gp bores me has done since they killed of the 500s the tt how ever never has bored me and never will hows it stupid ? We also have the nw200 dundrod to name

[GS1150Pilot]

The IoM TT, Pikes Peak, and the old Paris Dakar are about the only races I still find interesting.

[Nessism]

Moto gp bores me has done since they killed of the 500s the tt how ever never has bored me and never will hows it stupid ? We also have the nw200 dundrod to name

People die at the TT regularly. Some people have a morbid interest in such things but not I. And very few of the best racers will go there either (to race anyway.)

[GS1150Pilot]

Not sure the best GP racers would outperform folks like the Dunlops or Guy Martin. It takes far more balls to race the TT.

[Nessism]

Balls = stupidity in this instances.

Joey Dunlop is dead. RIP. A great racer.

[GS1150Pilot]

Disagree. ALL motorcycle racing could easily be called stupid. Just because this version is harder and more risky does not make it stupid. There is a magic to the TT that just doesn't exist in Moto GP.

Michael is alive and still a badass.

[Nessism]

There have been 260 Isle of Man deaths since the beginning, but more importantly, 36 in the last 10 years. That makes it stupid. Period. It's not a motorcycle race testing the best riders ability to control their bike it's about the guy willing to take the biggest risk. MotoGP has the best riders, the best machines, racing on safe courses. That's not to say motorcycle racing is totally safe, but at a proper track they remove stuff the rider can crash into when they fall off, unlike IOM.

IOM Deaths by nessism, on Flickr

[Buffalo Bill]

The TT race is iconic for sure but to me it's just plain stupid. I'd much rather watch MotoGP.

The Irish people are just plain stupid, from your lofty opinion of yourself?thank you preacher ed?
Go watch your tv?

[GS1150Pilot]

Ed, there is zero proof that GP racers are better than TT racers, and when push comes to shove, the bravery of the best TT racers would most likely win out on the TT no matter who showed up. Rossi did a lap once and said he could see why people love it but that it was too dangerous for him. The GP racers are not smarter, and they probably aren't better. They are just more risk averse. The roots of GP racing lie on Man, and there is no reason to bury them. Peter Hickman is one hardy soul from Superbike who does okay there, and I'd be willing to bet he's become a better rider for the TT.

[rgstu]

There have been 260 Isle of Man deaths since the beginning, but more importantly, 36 in the last 10 years. That makes it stupid. Period. It's not a motorcycle race testing the best riders ability to control their bike it's about the guy willing to take the biggest risk. MotoGP has the best riders, the best machines, racing on safe courses. That's not to say motorcycle racing is totally safe, but at a proper track they remove stuff the rider can crash into when they fall off, unlike IOM.

IOM Deaths by nessism, on Flickr

So what your saying is no one gets killed in other forms off motorcycle racing or gets hurt the tt has been around a lot longer than moto gp the guys that race here choose to race here they love it moto gp riders old 500 riders got killed too you know

[GS1150Pilot]

GP racing developed from closed road course racing in the interests of safety and visibility, but that is not an argument for throwing away the original, which is much more challenging, much more exciting, and more attractive aesthetically, too.

[Buffalo Bill]

The ultimate big money is in Moto GP, so that brings a lot to it. The GP tracks are about as ugly as an airport, and spectators are kept just about as far away as insurance will allow. The only way to watch is on tv.
The IOM TT and National Irish Road Racing is real road racing, what anybody can do on their own country roads. It's what I do, and you can do it on any bike you own.
Outlawing that kind of racing, to make it extinct, the idea appalls me.

Irish Road Racing makes the Isle of Man TT Look Cushy (story)

[GS1150Pilot]

Yeah, it would be like outlawing rock-climbing outside indoor gyms.