why do my breaks squeal?
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why do my breaks squeal?
why is it that my brakes squeal only when I roll the bike backwards? 1979 850GTags: None -
BassCliff
Hi,
Only backwards? Hmmm.

Normally, you will use a little brake/caliper grease between the shim pad (#3) and the brake pad (#2) so that it dampens (or changes) the vibrations to make them inaudible to human ears.
But I don't know why this happens to you only backwards.
Thank you for your indulgence,
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bobthebiker88 -
There is a shim missing in BassCliff's picture. It goes between the pad and the caliper (or piston) and on the trailing edge. This puts a wedge of effort on the pad. By going backwards, the wedge is on the leading edge, leading to chatter. Considering the ratio of how much time you spend going backwards compared to going forward, I would not worry about it.
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BassCliff
Steve, do you mean this 'spring pad'?

I hope I'm not missing anything and that it just wasn't in the picture.
Thank you for your indulgence,
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Adler
I wouldnt dare second guess Steve but that looks ok for the front caliper... the rear on the other hand has that directional shim

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BassCliff
Now that I think about it, Mr. doug g never mentioned if it was the front or the back. Either way:
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Oh, you're not "second guessing", you're just flat-out catching me in a rare mistake.

The last bike brakes I worked on were rears, so that's what stuck in my mind.
I had also changed the front pads on my son's car, and they had the c-shaped shims, too.
Yep, that c-shaped shim is only on the rear brake on the GS.
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mine: 2000 Honda GoldWing GL1500SE and 1980 GS850G'K' "Junior"
hers: 1982 GS850GL - "Angel" and 1969 Suzuki T250 Scrambler
#1 son: 1986 Yamaha Venture Royale 1300 and 1982 GS650GL "Rat Bagger"
#2 son: 1980 GS1000G
Family Portrait
Siblings and Spouses
Mom's first ride
Want a copy of my valve adjust spreadsheet for your 2-valve per cylinder engine? Send me an e-mail request (not a PM)
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doug g
I have the old style calipers still on my bike. Duanage got me some newer style calipers but life has been so crazy I have not had the opportunity or cash to rebuild them and install on my bike yet.Comment
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doug g
front old style calipers with the round disc style pads.Oh, you're not "second guessing", you're just flat-out catching me in a rare mistake.

The last bike brakes I worked on were rears, so that's what stuck in my mind.
I had also changed the front pads on my son's car, and they had the c-shaped shims, too.
Yep, that c-shaped shim is only on the rear brake on the GS.
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Pads are fairly new and they used to squeal when going forward and backwards and now with the new pads it happens only backwards.Comment
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