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  • Fjbj40
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    • Oct 2012
    • 1221
    • Dartmouth Nova Scotia

    #1

    1986-1987 GSX-R front end

    I have looked around but have been not able to get a positve answer. Some say yes and some say no.

    I am trying to find out if the GSX-R 750 and 1100 front forks are the same length for the 86-88 years?

    I have been able to find plenty of 750 front ends but not much luck with the 1100 front ends (which some people recommend), up here on Canada's east coast.

    thanks in advance,
    Daryl
    1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
    1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

    I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.
  • steve murdoch
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    • May 2004
    • 8492
    • St. Catharines, On.

    #2
    Looks like the 750 forks are 1" shorter.
    What forks will bolt onto my \'88 gsxr-1100 Hi, I posted here a week or so ago, I found a good price for some '86 gsxr 750 parts. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong but I believe that the botom of the engine is the same 86-88 750's &1100's, also the front forks off a 86' 750 will fit my stock...
    2@ \'78 GS1000

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    • Fjbj40
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      • Oct 2012
      • 1221
      • Dartmouth Nova Scotia

      #3
      Thanks, so just under an inch? I can machine up an extension to screw into the tube and make them the same length.

      There was some other good info there also.

      Thanks
      1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
      1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

      I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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      • posplayr
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        • Dec 2007
        • 23673
        • Tucson Az

        #4
        The 750 are shorter and the triple is not as strong. There is also a difference in offset. There is a nice complete 1100 front on eBay now. Iirc $100
        The other thing to watch hour for is the axle. The 86-87 forks are 15mm and the 88 forks are 17mm. I'm running the 88 1100 forks on my gs1100ed
        Last edited by posplayr; 01-09-2013, 12:34 PM.

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        • John Kat
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          • Oct 2010
          • 1433
          • France

          #5
          Originally posted by Fjbj40
          Thanks, so just under an inch? I can machine up an extension to screw into the tube and make them the same length.

          There was some other good info there also.

          Thanks
          I tried extending the GSXR 1100 K ( 1989) fork tubes
          Don't try!
          It cost me a fortune to have the parts machined and then I discovered that stainless steel doesn't like to be screwed in a chromium plated tube....at least not twice!
          Here's a view of the tubes:
          sigpicJohn Kat
          My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
          GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020

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          • John Kat
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            • Oct 2010
            • 1433
            • France

            #6
            Originally posted by posplayr
            The 750 are shorter and the triple is not as strong. There is also a difference in offset. There is a nice complete 1100 front on eBay now. Iirc $100
            The other thing to watch hour for is the axle. The 86-87 forks are 25mm and the 88 forks are 17mm. I'm running the 88 1100 forks on my gs1100ed
            I believe you mean 15 mm and then 17 mm
            sigpicJohn Kat
            My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
            GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020

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            • posplayr
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              #7
              Originally posted by John Kat
              I believe you mean 15 mm and then 17 mm

              Yes ; I miscued my Iphone

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              • Fjbj40
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                • Oct 2012
                • 1221
                • Dartmouth Nova Scotia

                #8
                Thanks for the heads up. Back to the drawing board or should I say hunt




                Originally posted by John Kat
                I tried extending the GSXR 1100 K ( 1989) fork tubes
                Don't try!
                It cost me a fortune to have the parts machined and then I discovered that stainless steel doesn't like to be screwed in a chromium plated tube....at least not twice!
                Here's a view of the tubes:
                http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=187018
                1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
                1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

                I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                • posplayr
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fjbj40
                  Thanks for the heads up. Back to the drawing board or should I say hunt

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                  • Fjbj40
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                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1221
                    • Dartmouth Nova Scotia

                    #10
                    Looks cheap, but one of the forks requires replacement and do you see the freight quote he gave somebody, $236in the end, not a deal unless you could locally pick it up.

                    Thanks for the link though,
                    Cheers

                    1978 Gs1085 compliments of Popy Yosh, Bandit 1200 wheels and front end, VM33 Smoothbores, Yosh exhaust, braced frame, ported polished head :cool:
                    1983 Gs1100ESD, rebuild finished! Body paintwork happening winter 2017:D

                    I would rather trust my bike to a technician that reads the service manual than some backyardigan that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix things.

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                    • tas850g
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                      • Jun 2008
                      • 1678
                      • Jaffrey, NH

                      #11
                      87 had a 17mm front axel.


                      Check this out: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188067
                      1979 GS850G
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                      2005 TT-R125 pit bike
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                      • John Kat
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                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1433
                        • France

                        #12
                        Be ware
                        This ad says it's a GSXR 1100 fork.
                        It isn't It's a GSXR 750 fork albeit of the same period.
                        The giveaway is the fact that not only are the antidives not electrically controlled but the wheel spindle is held by only one bolt versus two on the 1100 version.
                        This means:
                        a) the fork is shorter by 25mm
                        b) the wheel spindle is most probably 15mm in diameter
                        c) the calipers and the disks need to be matched ( 300 mm for the 750 and 310 mm for the 1100)
                        Guess how I discovered all this
                        sigpicJohn Kat
                        My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
                        GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020

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                        • posplayr
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by tas850g
                          87 had a 17mm front axel.


                          Check this out: http://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188067
                          The 17mm on the the 1987 is a typo and it was corrected in the link. See the note above the table. In fact I'm the one that instigated this and got the change made to correct the table.

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                          • posplayr
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by John Kat
                            Be ware
                            This ad says it's a GSXR 1100 fork.
                            It isn't It's a GSXR 750 fork albeit of the same period.
                            The giveaway is the fact that not only are the antidives not electrically controlled but the wheel spindle is held by only one bolt versus two on the 1100 version.
                            This means:
                            a) the fork is shorter by 25mm
                            b) the wheel spindle is most probably 15mm in diameter
                            c) the calipers and the disks need to be matched ( 300 mm for the 750 and 310 mm for the 1100)
                            Guess how I discovered all this
                            The triple clamp is off of a GSXR 86-88 1100 ; you can tell because the lower triple clamps have double bolts. The GSXR 750 only has a single bolt. The triples have different offsets so upper and lower do not mix between 750 and 1100.


                            As far as the axle pinch bolt there is only one on the 1100 and I assume for the 750 so that is not a clue (maybe you are thinking about the double pinch bolts on the lower triple?).

                            Yes it appears as if the anti-dives are off of an 750 so maybe someone swapped out the stations or maybe they just swapped out the anti dives. An email to the seller to confirm the free length would be in order.

                            Obviously these were polished and who knows what combination they came up with.

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                            • posplayr
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Fjbj40
                              Looks cheap, but one of the forks requires replacement and do you see the freight quote he gave somebody, $236in the end, not a deal unless you could locally pick it up.

                              Thanks for the link though,
                              Cheers
                              Yes, I can see that shipping to CA from Ca. would be pricey

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