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  • GSXR7ED
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    #16
    Braided Line

    Originally posted by Rob S.
    GSX, Three different handlebars were offered on 1982 GS1100e's in the U.S.?

    I did not know that.

    Those brake lines look top-quality. How much did they cost?
    I paid $26 (3ft in length) for mine at "G & J Airctraft" Ontario, CA. I only had to buy 1.




    Ed
    Last edited by GSXR7ED; 01-14-2014, 02:31 PM.
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    • bbjumper

      #17
      I used these on my "G"

      (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUZUKI-GS-85...1238d8&vxp=mtr)

      I have to say I didn't notice much difference if any when I installed them, maybe a little firmer lever but that's about it. Still takes a full handfull if you want to get her hauled down from Mach 1 in a hurry. They do last forever though which ought to be a real improvement on the 30 year old originals.

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      • Nessism
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        #18
        Here is a thread about building your own lines using made in USA Earl's performance components. Cheap, reliable, and customizable for your choice of bars and hose routing method. http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=114521
        Ed

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        • GSXR7ED
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          #19
          Too Easy

          Originally posted by Nessism
          Here is a thread about building your own lines using made in USA Earl's performance components. Cheap, reliable, and customizable for your choice of bars and hose routing method. http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=114521
          I remember seeing this before my adventure with my front brake line.

          It was easier for me to pay for them...the guys at the shop did it in less than 5 minutes...lickity split and then I bounced.


          Ed
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          • DimitriT
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            #20
            Anyone using the Earl's banjo fittings?

            I recently swapped handle bars out (replace the buck horns with flat bars on the 550) and
            I need to shorten the brake line. I was thinking to chop some off and put on the screw on fitting.

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            • Nessism
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              #21
              Originally posted by DimitriT
              Anyone using the Earl's banjo fittings?

              I recently swapped handle bars out (replace the buck horns with flat bars on the 550) and
              I need to shorten the brake line. I was thinking to chop some off and put on the screw on fitting.
              Hose ends are reusable, but you will want new "olives" (ferrules).

              Cutting the hose can be done with a sharp wood chisel. Amazing but true.
              Ed

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              • Rob S.
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                #22
                Brake lock-up?

                Has anyone here ever experienced the brake lock-up mentioned below? I've never heard of this before. I occasionally pin my speedometer at it's measly 85mph, and a front brake lock-up could be fatal.

                '82 1100e
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                • GSXR7ED
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                  #23
                  Lock-up

                  Originally posted by Rob S.
                  Has anyone here ever experienced the brake lock-up mentioned below? I've never heard of this before. I occasionally pin my speedometer at it's measly 85mph, and a front brake lock-up could be fatal.

                  '82 1100e
                  Unless you grab a hand-full of brake, I wouldn't suspect such a thing to happen. I could be wrong but I never had that problem at speed...didn't think about it either.


                  Ed
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                  • Nessism
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                    #24
                    It's just plain dumb to run the old rubber lines, unless you are dirt poor or ignorant and don't know any better. Spend the money, and take care of your 32 year old motorcycle. The old lines are going to have a layer of scum inside which will contaminate the brake fluid. Nothing good comes from that.
                    Ed

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                    • GSXR7ED
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                      #25
                      Change That Brake Line! (Only a suggestion of course)

                      Originally posted by Rob S.
                      Has anyone here ever experienced the brake lock-up mentioned below? I've never heard of this before. I occasionally pin my speedometer at it's measly 85mph, and a front brake lock-up could be fatal.

                      '82 1100e
                      Originally posted by Nessism
                      It's just plain dumb to run the old rubber lines, unless you are dirt poor or ignorant and don't know any better. Spend the money, and take care of your 32 year old motorcycle. The old lines are going to have a layer of scum inside which will contaminate the brake fluid. Nothing good comes from that.
                      Rob S.

                      I'm changing my single-disc line...when you take your's apart, you'll be surprised to see the condition it's in. I couldn't believe I was riding my bike with hardly any fluid.

                      I'm waiting patiently on parts and look forward to my next ride!


                      Ed
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                      • GSX1000E

                        #26
                        Has anyone here actually cut open a brake hose and taken a picture or two of this scum that is supposed to exist? Link to a picture perhaps?

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                        • GSXR7ED
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                          #27
                          Cut It!

                          Originally posted by GSX1000E
                          Has anyone here actually cut open a brake hose and taken a picture or two of this scum that is supposed to exist? Link to a picture perhaps?
                          I have mine in front of me...but then I have to cut it...then take a picture...then upload it on PB...then reply to this thread...darn, that's alot of work!


                          Ed
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                          • cowboyup3371
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by GSX1000E
                            Has anyone here actually cut open a brake hose and taken a picture or two of this scum that is supposed to exist? Link to a picture perhaps?
                            I'm not sure what you are driving at GSX but the choice between an easy preventative maintenance step of replacing 30 year old brake lines or brakes locking up is an easy one.
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                            • Nessism
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by GSX1000E
                              Has anyone here actually cut open a brake hose and taken a picture or two of this scum that is supposed to exist? Link to a picture perhaps?
                              The brake fluid turns brown and coagulates as it absorbs water. About 8/10 32 year old bikes have developed this scum at some point in it's life. Sadly, people think they can get rid of this crap by a simple fluid flush. At best the crud will contaminate the new fluid. At worst, the brake will lock up and dump you on your head. The choice is yours.



                              Last edited by Nessism; 01-14-2014, 10:43 PM.
                              Ed

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                              • Rob S.
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                                #30
                                Convinced!

                                I'm convinced - I'm going to steel lines.

                                What is that yummy-looking picture of below?

                                Inside the steel-braided exterior, there's still rubber, right? It just can't expand because of the steel exterior?
                                1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                                2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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