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  • Ton1959

    #16
    This info is telling me the same as what I got back from the main supplier over here.

    http://www.davequinnmotorcycles.com/...IN_SHOCKS.html


    Its all in the springs. But I will check with Hagon before I order them.

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    • Kiwi Canuck
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      #17
      Originally posted by Ton1959
      This info is telling me the same as what I got back from the main supplier over here.

      http://www.davequinnmotorcycles.com/...IN_SHOCKS.html


      Its all in the springs. But I will check with Hagon before I order them.
      What about this... right from the link you posted.

      Shock bodies are available in Soft, Medium, Hard and Extra Hard damping levels; Hagons' spec for your bike and our experience with USA models will tell us the length and damping level that your bike needs, and the mounting bushings that will need to be fitted. It is useful if you measure your current shocks' length and bush sizes before you order so we can reconfirm your specs.
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      • tkent02
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        #18
        Originally posted by Kiwi Canuck

        Shock bodies are available in Soft, Medium, Hard and Extra Hard damping levels; Hagons' spec for your bike and our experience with USA models will tell us the length and damping level that your bike needs, and the mounting bushings that will need to be fitted. It is useful if you measure your current shocks' length and bush sizes before you order so we can reconfirm your specs.
        There you go. For some reason they love to sell shocks with rock hard compression damping.
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        • Nessism
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          #19
          So which damping level do you recommend Tom? Need shocks for the KZ750. 200 lbs with gear and riding solo 90% of the time.
          Last edited by Nessism; 04-03-2014, 01:33 PM.
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          • tkent02
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            #20
            Originally posted by Nessism
            So which damping level to you recommend Tom? Need shocks for the KZ750. 200 lbs with gear and riding solo 90% of the time.
            Sadly I don't know which is which. The damping on the shocks they sold me for my 650G would have probably been fine for couple on a GK. But I don't know which level it was. Bought them from Dave Quinn, he was no help at all with service after the sale. Didn't even tell me about the different damping levels. The damping adjustable 2810s seem good, on the 550 I'm running around with the damping on about level 2 of 10, it's pretty comfy. OK anyway. Still might not be the most comfortable shocks, don't know yet. Need to get the forks sprung right with the emulators set and then go play with the shocks again to know for sure.

            I may be done with Hagon. I never hear of these troubles from those who buy Progressives or IKONs.
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            • cowboyup3371
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              #21
              Ed, Z1 is selling Hagons now and gave me some ideas for Charmayne's shocks when we get to that; might be worth a call to Jeff and his crew for you.....
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              • 850 Combat
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                #22
                I got some for my '76 RD400 from Dave Quinn It seemed to me that they pushed toward stiffer springs and damping. I tried to resist. They are pretty good. Not as harsh as stock Girlings that were on some of my English bikes. Not as harsh as some of the Progressives I have had. The PO put Hagons on my red GS1000G. Those ones work pretty darned well. I haven't always had good luck with recommendations from vendors when selecting springs etc. for aftermarket shocks. Heck, the Progressive shocks and springs on my '78 RD400 were really too stiff.

                Progressive came out of the ashes of S & W shocks, but I like the S & Ws on the back of my '75 Commando a lot.
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                • Ton1959

                  #23
                  When I got in contact before with Hagon in the Netherlands they told me that on a Standard Hagon the spring was 20kg/cm but they could fit an 18kg/cm or even a 16kg/cm.
                  Suppose you get the 18kg/cm then with the wrench supllied with the shocker you can turn it op from minimum to maximum so that the 18kg/cm is like the 20kg/cm
                  And that was all they could do.

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                  • posplayr
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ton1959
                    When I got in contact before with Hagon in the Netherlands they told me that on a Standard Hagon the spring was 20kg/cm but they could fit an 18kg/cm or even a 16kg/cm.
                    Suppose you get the 18kg/cm then with the wrench supllied with the shocker you can turn it op from minimum to maximum so that the 18kg/cm is like the 20kg/cm
                    And that was all they could do.
                    The preload settings do not affect the spring rate.

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                    • Nessism
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by 850 Combat
                      Progressive came out of the ashes of S & W shocks, but I like the S & Ws on the back of my '75 Commando a lot.
                      Actually, Progressive shoveled dirt on S&W's grave. I briefly worked for S&W while in school, and Progressive was stealing all their market share back then - 1983. The shocks were made by Gabriel in Mexico back then.
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                      • Ton1959

                        #26
                        I checked with Hagon UK. Just the springs that can be changed to suit your needs. And as I never ride with a passenger it was best to go with the 18kg/cm

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                        • Ton1959

                          #27
                          Originally posted by posplayr
                          The preload settings do not affect the spring rate.
                          But they do change the ride height

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                          • tkent02
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Ton1959
                            I checked with Hagon UK. Just the springs that can be changed to suit your needs. And as I never ride with a passenger it was best to go with the 18kg/cm
                            Which damping are they trying to sell you?
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                            • duaneage
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                              #29
                              I have hagons on my 1000G and they seem to be a good match. Of course the bike weighs more than a 550 so that is to be expected. I found progressives on my 650G to be a bit harsh but the handling on curves is a nice tradeoff.
                              Riding style has a lot to do with what you want shocks to do.
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                              • tkent02
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by duaneage
                                Riding style has a lot to do with what you want shocks to do.
                                Absolutely, but there is no reason to take an ass pounding whenever you ride just because you like to go fast around corners. Comfort and good handling are not mutually exclusive.
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