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  • uk gs nut
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    • Feb 2011
    • 691
    • Co durham uk

    #1

    avon roadrider

    Hi all, When I have been riding my GS1000 for a while say 4 or 5 hours on and off my handling goes off it feels odd. I was thinking rear shocks getting hot or something strange was going on. Well I but the bike on the lift to have a look around for loose bolts etc and found the rear tyre has cracks in the tread . Has any body else come across this ?. Tyre is only 2 years old and about 3K miles.
    My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N
  • trevor
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    • Oct 2011
    • 18697
    • Victoria bc

    #2
    Oh boy here we go again....yes the Avon's have a fairly long history of cracking. Do a search here and you will come up with many threads on the issue.
    Cheers,
    No signature :(

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    • posplayr
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      • Dec 2007
      • 23673
      • Tucson Az

      #3
      Most reported cracking are hairline sidewall cracks. I have never seen a crack down center that way and I do not ever remember anybody saying they could feel anything while riding.

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      • JTGS850GL
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        • Aug 2013
        • 9735
        • GA

        #4
        Originally posted by trevor
        Oh boy here we go again....yes the Avon's have a fairly long history of cracking. Do a search here and you will come up with many threads on the issue.
        Cheers,
        One of the reasons I don't ride Avons.
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        1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
        1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
        1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

        Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

        JTGS850GL aka Julius

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        • trevor
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          • Oct 2011
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          • Victoria bc

          #5
          Originally posted by posplayr
          Most reported cracking are hairline sidewall cracks. I have never seen a crack down center that way and I do not ever remember anybody saying they could feel anything while riding.
          The cracks I've had were just like that...in the centre. Never effected handling and I doubt it would. I rode them to about 10,000kms with no issue.
          No signature :(

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          • Charlie G
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            • Feb 2009
            • 6440
            • Siskiyou county

            #6
            I've followed the problem with Avons and that isn't the typical problem. As said before, the side wall on rear are the problem. What does the date code say? Two years? The last one I bought last summer had a date code of 0814. I've had it on the bike for 7500 miles and it's ready for replacement, with no cracks. That's a weird problem. Complain to Avon! Give'm "L"

            cg
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            • posplayr
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              • Dec 2007
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              • Tucson Az

              #7
              Originally posted by Charlie G
              I've followed the problem with Avons and that isn't the typical problem. As said before, the side wall on rear are the problem. What does the date code say? Two years? The last one I bought last summer had a date code of 0814. I've had it on the bike for 7500 miles and it's ready for replacement, with no cracks. That's a weird problem. Complain to Avon! Give'm "L"

              cg
              Great tire if you can trust them.

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              • uk gs nut
                Forum Mentor
                • Feb 2011
                • 691
                • Co durham uk

                #8
                Date code is 0313 I have e mailed Avon. Going to fit a Pirelli sport deamon. Those cracks are all round the tyre and I wont use it, I don't fancy being a leather clad roadkill. The bike just did not feel right, cracks go down to cords, pressure is 32 psi cold.
                My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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                • JTGS850GL
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                  • Aug 2013
                  • 9735
                  • GA

                  #9
                  Originally posted by uk gs nut
                  Date code is 0313 I have e mailed Avon. Going to fit a Pirelli sport deamon. Those cracks are all round the tyre and I wont use it, I don't fancy being a leather clad roadkill. The bike just did not feel right, cracks go down to cords, pressure is 32 psi cold.
                  Very good move. I don't trust cracked tires. Blown tires are not very forgiving on a bike.
                  http://img633.imageshack.us/img633/811/douMvs.jpg
                  1980 GS1000GT (Daily rider with a 1983 1100G engine)
                  1998 Honda ST1100 (Daily long distance rider)
                  1982 GS850GLZ (Daily rider when the weather is crap)

                  Darn, with so many daily riders it's hard to decide which one to jump on next.;)

                  JTGS850GL aka Julius

                  GS Resource Greetings

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Avon was really good about it, I returned the tire and received 100% credit with the retailer after 1 year, maybe 5000 km. The rear cracked on the tread face and 1 sidewall- driveside, (not from over zealous chain lubrication.)
                    I'm guessing it is a 130/90 17? so far in my anecdotal survey that is the only tire size of theirs that cracks.

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                    • Charlie G
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                      • Feb 2009
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                      • Siskiyou county

                      #11
                      Originally posted by uk gs nut
                      Date code is 0313 I have e mailed Avon. Going to fit a Pirelli sport deamon. Those cracks are all round the tyre and I wont use it, I don't fancy being a leather clad roadkill. The bike just did not feel right, cracks go down to cords, pressure is 32 psi cold.
                      I think Bonanza Dave had problem tires in that date range; early 2013. Out of 6 tires I had one that was problematic and I spotted the problem after 100 miles. Got a new one for free. I have a good dealer though. Dave had 2 or three (?) bad ones I think. 130/90 17, that's the size.

                      cg
                      Last edited by Charlie G; 05-31-2015, 03:18 PM.
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                      • uk gs nut
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                        • Feb 2011
                        • 691
                        • Co durham uk

                        #12
                        This is a 130/80x18, bike is a 79 gs1000n with spoke wheels. Before any body says it, I have had same size tyres on this bike for 16 years with no trouble and good road holding.
                        My bikes 79 GS1000 1085 checked and approved by stator the GSR mascot :eagerness: and 77 GS750 with 850 top end, GS850g, and my eldest sons 78 GS550, youngest sons GS125. Project bike 79 GS1000N

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                        • SVSooke

                          #13
                          Originally posted by derwood
                          Avon was really good about it, I returned the tire and received 100% credit with the retailer after 1 year, maybe 5000 km. The rear cracked on the tread face and 1 sidewall- driveside, (not from over zealous chain lubrication.)
                          I'm guessing it is a 130/90 17? so far in my anecdotal survey that is the only tire size of theirs that cracks.
                          Originally posted by Charlie G
                          I think Bonanza Dave had problem tires in that date range; early 2013. Out of 6 tires I had one that was problematic and I spotted the problem after 100 miles. Got a new one for free. I have a good dealer though. Dave had 2 or three (?) bad ones I think. 130/90 17, that's the size.

                          cg
                          Well isn't that just grandWhen the Shinko's on the 85 750 wear out the replacements where to be Road Riders in the 130/90-17 size for the rear.With 110/90-16 fronts being a limited selection size it seemed like a good idea,not so sure now

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                          • bonanzadave
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                            • Jul 2006
                            • 9623
                            • Minnesota

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Charlie G
                            Dave had 2 or three (?) bad ones I think. 130/90 17, that's the size.
                            Yes I did starting in 2011. After winter storage they all had side wall cracks. 2011/2012, 2012/2013, 2013/2014 and now this one installed in 2014 for the 2015 season looks OK. Fingers crossed. Someone in Australia (?) had a Avon crack down the middle.
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                            • Big T
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by uk gs nut
                              This is a 130/80x18, bike is a 79 gs1000n with spoke wheels. Before any body says it, I have had same size tyres on this bike for 16 years with no trouble and good road holding.
                              Well, I have to say it

                              Put the 4.00 Avon on there and you'll notice a positive difference in the handling

                              Get more contact patch as well
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