Is there M+S or 3mpsf tyres that fits the GS1000G?

[Noreg]

Id like some tyres to extend my range in the beginning and end of the season.

It sucks to be trapped here, with snow/ice in both directions.

Maybe I need a winter bike...

[salty_monk]

I've used the Shinko 705's... they fit & work ok. You could also get Tourance by Meztler, the Karoo 3, Heidenau scout... i've run them all. Depends how "off road" you want them to be. There is a lot of choice that will fit.

[Noreg]

I've used the Shinko 705's... they fit & work ok. You could also get Tourance by Meztler, the Karoo 3, Heidenau scout... i've run them all. Depends how "off road" you want them to be. There is a lot of choice that will fit.

I care a lot more about the S than the M. I want snow grip. I ride on so little mud I can just slow down.

[Gorminrider]

I'd guess you'll want chains in the end....Ice is what scares me or maybe a little less- hardpacked snow -not so much fresh snow that I won't go out in anyways... apart from motorcycles' "street tires" already having softer rubber (a feature of cars' winter tires) I don't know if a knobby tire is any better than a street tire on ice ..I suppose the reduced area of rubber-on-the-road means there is more weight born by the rubber, but the area is reduced so it sems to cancel out?

[Rich82GS750TZ]

Whatever jedz123 uses. PM him if he doesn’t respond here. He lives in Vermont, The Norway of the US and rides most of the year round.

[Noreg]

I'd guess you'll want chains in the end....Ice is what scares me or maybe a little less- hardpacked snow -not so much fresh snow that I won't go out in anyways... apart from motorcycles' "street tires" already having softer rubber (a feature of cars' winter tires) I don't know if a knobby tire is any better than a street tire on ice ..I suppose the reduced area of rubber-on-the-road means there is more weight born by the rubber, but the area is reduced so it sems to cancel out?

Ice is predictable and easy though. I know where there might be ice. Snow on the other hand is a finicky bastard. It can start snowing at any time, and there might be slush anywhere. Even when the temperatures makes sense for riding. And even while its not snowing, the wind might blow it into the road.

I don't think knobs helps much, but M+S rated tyres have other compounds. Like my fat bike (bicycle) tyres without studs are okay unless you have to brake (the studded tyres for that bike is a work of art, wet ice is not even slightly an issue, sadly they arent rated for motorcycles). My logic is, they have M+S motorcycle tyres, if all motorcycles were good enough for that mark they'd slap it on every single tyre they make. For truck tyres they pretty much have the mark for anything that remotely resembles having the ability to drive on snow. I wish I could have a track day on snow, and slush with warm tyres and see how it works, maybe Im just too cautious.

For anything less than 4 tonnes it makes no sense with chains, unless you're stuck.

[Gorminrider]

The treads on MC street tires don't agree with M+S ...but the rubber is definitely as soft. I wonder if Dirt bike tires are maybe harder, because the sharp edges of the lugs grind down quick..but I don't know..however I have seen tires with spikes and such on ice.

I used to get caught in falling snow occassionally when I was young with 20 miles of mountain highway and city streets between me and home at night. Going down a mountain-steep snowy straight road with stopsigns on the way (22nd in West Van if you know the area) is no joke and I will be happy if I never do it again. But do wonder if the tires then were better for that situation than modern tires- ribbed front with a traction rear was the norm in the 70's.

but Whatever, maybe you haven't any there, but here, it's the blithe idiots who will drive in the snow without tires or wisdom that'll get you.

[Cipher]

holy hell that has to be one of the most northerly habitated spots on earth

[Noreg]

holy hell that has to be one of the most northerly habitated spots on earth

Harstad? Its only 68 degrees north, I used to live in Alta (7-8 hour drive north), and people live as far as Nordkapp (71 degrees north), and the most northern city is Hammerfest (like 9 and a half hour away).

The treads on MC street tires don't agree with M+S ...but the rubber is definitely as soft. I wonder if Dirt bike tires are maybe harder, because the sharp edges of the lugs grind down quick..but I don't know..however I have seen tires with spikes and such on ice.

I used to get caught in falling snow occassionally when I was young with 20 miles of mountain highway and city streets between me and home at night. Going down a mountain-steep snowy straight road with stopsigns on the way (22nd in West Van if you know the area) is no joke and I will be happy if I never do it again. But do wonder if the tires then were better for that situation than modern tires- ribbed front with a traction rear was the norm in the 70's.

but Whatever, maybe you haven't any there, but here, it's the blithe idiots who will drive in the snow without tires or wisdom that'll get you.

There is tires that is like, 80% street and 20% gravel/dirt and so on. I struggle to find the right dimensions though. I find lots of tiny tires for like mopeds (scooters). Spiked tires would be illegal now (but probably not enforced if I say Im going north), and I doubt this bike is one Id be willing to let rust appart from all the salt.

Stop signs is a concept i don't understand, and they annoy me sooo much. I imagine driving a manual bus stopping every intersection, would be infuriating. Our driving schools bus has 7 gears going forward, its a lot of shifting when you stop... My fear is crossing a mountain in bellow freezing being stuck in wind or it starting to snow heavily. Its huge distances here, riding bellow freezing is COLD, and having to stop randomly in heavy snow on a mountain is somewhat terrifying. Waddling the bike while cars are doing 80kmh (60ish mph) is also scary in the snow.

Skill definitively helps, but I am fairly inexperienced at riding, on four wheels Im brilliant on ice and snow though. Or on a fatbike, but 17 kilos of bike is a little easier to manage (and it has knobby tires)...

[Grimly]

I've got a Golden Tyre G201 on the rear of mine. A 130/80-17.

https://www.goldentyreworld.com/product/gt-201-onoff/

[GS1150Pilot]

What about these?

https://www.anlas-tyres.co.uk/winter-grip-plus/

[Grimly]

What about these?

https://www.anlas-tyres.co.uk/winter-grip-plus/

Narrowest rear there is a 150 - won't fit. Max width in a stock 850/1000G swingarm/drive is 140 and that's if you get lucky enough to find one, as most of them foul the driveline.

[GS1150Pilot]

Ah, damn. I didn't look at the sizes.

[Gorminrider]

cmon! Crazy-talk! a GS1000G in snow? If you want to ride in snow, get a smaller bike. A 250 or a 400 (a single 400 might be better? or maybe not-too much torque?) can keep up with traffic and won't crush you so badly when it falls on you. Easier to stop, and not so prone to skid out taking off if your heavily-mittened and numb hands misjudge the throttle...

[GS1150Pilot]

I don't think we should be trying to convince Noreg not to ride in the snow. He knows what he's doing.