1981 GS850G rear brake master cylinder (I need help)

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  • Slowride
    Forum Newbie
    • May 2020
    • 17
    • Stow, Ohio

    #1

    1981 GS850G rear brake master cylinder (I need help)

    It's been a while since I was a member of this forum but I'm back because, as in the past, I needed help and I always received great advice and assistance from members here.

    I'm pretty sure I need to rebuild (or buy new) my rear brake master cylinder. I have a 1981 GS850G. Can anyone tell me a good place to either buy a rebuild kit or a new master cylinder? I live in NE Ohio if that is any help. My local Suzuki dealer told me last year (when I needed something) that they can't help me because I bike is too old.
  • Big T
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    • Mar 2005
    • 12420
    • West Slope, OR

    #2
    Ok, start by describing the problem
    Then, when was the last time you flushed your brake fluid?
    Have you replaced the brake line?
    1978 GS 1000 (since new)
    1979 GS 1000 (The Fridge, superbike replica project)
    1978 GS 1000 (parts)
    1981 GS 850 (anyone want a project?)
    1981 GPZ 550 (backroad screamer)
    1970 450 Mk IIID (THUMP!)
    2007 DRz 400S
    1999 ATK 490ES
    1994 DR 350SES

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    • Slowride
      Forum Newbie
      • May 2020
      • 17
      • Stow, Ohio

      #3
      I can't remember the last time I flushed the brake lines. I started by pumping the brake pedal, as if I was going to bleed my lines and nothing came out from the calipers, so I worked backwards to the master cylinder. I opened the connection where the brake line meets the master cylinder and again, pumped the brake pedal, again, nothing came through. I took the master cylinder off the bike and started to take it apart. I removed the push rod but the insides of the master cylinder did not come out. As of now, I have it sitting in some penetrating oil with hopes I can remove the inside to rebuild it. I ended up seeing there is a parts section on the forum and ended up ordering the rebuild (inside parts) from Z1Enterprises. I hope I'm on the right track.

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      • salty_monk
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        • Oct 2006
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        #4
        You should be able to rebuild it as long as the bore is not too corroded.. Did you order a new piston? That's usually the bit that corrodes worst. I fitted on from an EX300 on my skunk but was a bit of messing around. Did a thread on it somewhere. I think one from a V Strom could be made to fit as well...
        1980 GS1000G - Sold
        1978 GS1000E - Finished!
        1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
        1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
        2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
        1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
        2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

        www.parasiticsanalytics.com

        TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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        • Slowride
          Forum Newbie
          • May 2020
          • 17
          • Stow, Ohio

          #5
          Yes, I did order a new piston. Hopefully tomorrow I'll see if the penetrating oil freed up the pieces inside, piston and all.

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          • hannibal
            Forum Sage
            • Jun 2015
            • 1033
            • Washington DC

            #6
            You could also try boiling the master cylinder in a pot of water to dissolve the gunk and hopefully the piston, etc will come out.
            Jordan

            1977 Suzuki GS750 (My first bike)
            2000 Kawasaki ZRX1100
            1973 BMW R75/5

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            • rphillips
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              • Jun 2005
              • 7709
              • Norene TN

              #7
              Luckily most Suzuki rear masters are straight thru, remove the banjo bolt from the top & use a punch to push the piston & innards out the bottom. I've not heard of the boiling thing, but will keep it in mind in the future.
              1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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              • Slowride
                Forum Newbie
                • May 2020
                • 17
                • Stow, Ohio

                #8
                I pushed the piston out this morning and the inside of the master cylinder looks pretty clean (I think I got lucky). While I'm waiting for the new parts to arrive, I figure I better flush out my front brakes and maybe try to clean my rear calipers. Any trick to getting the pistons out of the calipers?

                I haven't ridden the bike in over a year so if the weather ever improves here, I'll be able to get out for a ride.

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                • salty_monk
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                  • Oct 2006
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                  #9
                  For the rear you have to split the caliper. There is an O ring in the middle. You can use air pressure or grease pump to move the pistons...
                  1980 GS1000G - Sold
                  1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                  1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                  1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                  2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                  1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                  2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                  www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                  TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                  • Slowride
                    Forum Newbie
                    • May 2020
                    • 17
                    • Stow, Ohio

                    #10
                    Thanks. Great info. I'll have to attack it tomorrow. The weather here was nice today so the yard work took priority.

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                    • allojohn
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                      • NoMo, MN

                      #11
                      If you use an air gun watch out - when it lets go it'll fly!
                      -Mal

                      "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." - B. Banzai
                      ___________

                      78 GS750E

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                      • DrDankNuggs
                        Forum Apprentice
                        • Apr 2020
                        • 41
                        • Connecticut

                        #12
                        Originally posted by allojohn
                        If you use an air gun watch out - when it lets go it'll fly!
                        LOL I can second that! Looked like it was going slow and steady, released air pressure then BOOM Piston flew across my garage boy was I glad I wasn't looking at it!
                        1983 GS650GL Not running when I bought it. runs great now
                        Engine- Carb Cleaned, Valve Adj, Ignition Mod, balanced carbs, Polished/Painted engine, Exhaust wrapped
                        Frame & Wheels painted, rebuild brakes/masters, Fixed Tach/Spedo, Sonic Springs in the Front, New handle bars w/bar end mirror/turn signals
                        Still To-Do?
                        Fuel sending unit, Fuel tank paint job?, LED headlight?, Seat falling apart, Solutions?, Changing look of the rear of bike, Seat, Brake/turn-signals

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                        • Slowride
                          Forum Newbie
                          • May 2020
                          • 17
                          • Stow, Ohio

                          #13
                          Thanks for the heads up.

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                          • Slowride
                            Forum Newbie
                            • May 2020
                            • 17
                            • Stow, Ohio

                            #14
                            The piston and spring arrived this evening. I purchased the KL kit from Z1 and I saw it is also for several other bikes. There seems to be an extra rubber seal with the kit. Since my bike is a GS850G, am I to assume it is for another bike? If not, where does it fit within the assembly?
                            Attached Files

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                            • Slowride
                              Forum Newbie
                              • May 2020
                              • 17
                              • Stow, Ohio

                              #15
                              The photo in the previous post is the original piston and spring. This photo is the new kit. The rubber seal in question is the one to the right. Any idea if it is an extra part for another rebuild or what do I do with it? There is no center hole in it.

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