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failed my cert. Neutral safety swith 83 gs550es

  • Thread starter Thread starter $hitfoot
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I've only seen the sidestand kill switch on Yamaha, suzuki uses a warning lamp
 
My '86 Concours has this kickstand kill switch switch. It will prevent you from riding off with the stand down.

Of course the 80 550L does not.
 
anyone have a wiring diagram for 83 gs550es? there are 2 leads under the headlight shroud look to be disconnected , black/whit. and brown come from the same harness that the headlights are hooked into, highbeams and everything else i can think that they may be are functioning normal. Ordered my fork seals today and should have by tomorrow or Monday.

the report print out from the GP bikes in Ajax Ontario.

Fork seals leaking/ No Neutral safety system.

Maybe you know a good shop to recommend.
 
$hitfoot said:
anyone have a wiring diagram for 83 gs550es? there are 2 leads under the headlight shroud look to be disconnected , black/whit. and brown come from the same harness that the headlights are hooked into, highbeams and everything else i can think that they may be are functioning normal. Ordered my fork seals today and should have by tomorrow or Monday.

the report print out from the GP bikes in Ajax Ontario.

Fork seals leaking/ No Neutral safety system.

Maybe you know a good shop to recommend.
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The two loose wires are for auxiliary lighting. You're going to have to find a way to convince them your bike doesn't have a neutral safety switch. I can give you a copy of my '85 700 diagram. Wiring will be close to the same and it may help you convince the inspector they didn't have that feature back then.
 
be for you go back to have your bike retested. stop in and see if thay have a form for grievances for the inspection processes. if thay ask why tell them you took the bike to the shop. and were told thay could do a up date to your motorcycle for a feature that never came factory, to pass inspection. also tell them you had a loss of use of the motorcycle for a few days waiting on the factory to confirm to the dealer that feature was never installed on that bike.


I have had to deal with a few road side inspections. we dont have state inspections yeaaaaa. but a few cops tryed to have my motorcycle towed, thay never got the job done. one time i had a blown low beam. I just truned on the brite and adjusted the light to hit low. so i did not shine in the eyes of on coming trafic. the cop got poed big time when I told him i was going to fight it.
 
download and print the diagram fromt he manual available at repairmanulclub.com

There is no neutral safety

only a light for the sidestand that is triggered by a switch adjacet to the stand

and a starter interlock switch that prevent you from launching yourself into a fall by driving the bike in gear with the starter.
 
$hitfoot said:
anyone have a wiring diagram for 83 gs550es? there are 2 leads under the headlight shroud look to be disconnected , black/whit. and brown come from the same harness that the headlights are hooked into, highbeams and everything else i can think that they may be are functioning normal. Ordered my fork seals today and should have by tomorrow or Monday.

the report print out from the GP bikes in Ajax Ontario.

Fork seals leaking/ No Neutral safety system.

Maybe you know a good shop to recommend.
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If you don't mind going another 35 mins north/east, there's Asselstines Suzuki/Yamaha in Blackstock (15 mins north of Bowmanville). http://www.asselstines.com/ Been with them for 20 years. I've heard that GP isn't really into older bikes and prefers the Ducati's since that's there main sellers. There really isn't much around in this area that I know of. I know of another mechanic in Hampton, but I can't think of the name of his garage. Don't know much about him or if he can do safety's.
 
You can certainly greeve this with the MTO. Get a hold of your local MTO office and ask for the Inspector. Outline your situation and see what he suggests.

If they are wrong.....as they were with me, he can give you the rules or print out what the rules are in an e-mail and you can go back on them.

If you have a real grievance, it is the MTOs responsibilitly to follow up with the mechanic and set him right.

Don't go down without a fight and don't feel you have to slink off to another shop to get satisfaction.

Stick to your guns make them own up to their own mistakes. It is a very liberating experience, trust me I know.

Cheers and good luck,
spyug.
 
Sorry, I got really ****ed when I read this thread. What did they say or what did they show you when you got the bike from them?

I take it they kind of fluffed you off. Not acceptable.

As per my previous post, you have to go back on them using the MTO as your big stick.

Don't let them off.

Its not only you.....its the poor smuck coming next.

How much did it cost you for no cert?

Get mad...then get her done ( to paraphrase a great human being,,Larry the Cable Guy).

Seriously, walking away lets them off the hook...they need to be made to understand.

Talk to us
Cheers,
Spyug.
 
He charged me 30 buck for the inspection and told me if i sort it all out and bring it back with forks seals and a working neutral system witin 30 days I could get my cert for 28 bucks more.
Tomorrow i will tear down the front end and have it ready for parts on order and should be back at the shop by tues. Hopefully the email I sent to Suzuki will get me some sort of docs.
I do have some jobs to do in newmarket and they have a showroom there so maybe I get something from them.

in any case i will take it in with new fork seals and tell him the idiot light is all we have until I believe 87...
 
$hitfoot said:
He charged me 30 buck for the inspection and told me if i sort it all out and bring it back with forks seals and a working neutral system witin 30 days I could get my cert for 28 bucks more.
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What a damn racket. How often must you guys have an inspection done? I know some states down here have safety inspection requirements, but thankfully Kentucky is not one of them. Leaky fork seals! Hell's fiire. Drain the oil out of them and take it back. Get the cert and fill 'em up with a combo of transmission fluid and tranny sealer,(seal sweller). Chances are it will work just fine. Change later at your convenience. Can you show the inspector a Clymers, Haynes or factory manual regarding your kickstand kill switch? Inspection! License to steal.
 
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thay do that pass fail bs here with the CDL test. some guys go back up to 5 times at 100 bucks a test. a few places never passed a guy on the first round. I know one guy who got the state in to the mess. he was driving a rig on the farm at 15 years old. backing it up to docks and around grain bins. after his 2 fail on the test, he asked others taking the test how many times thay did it. the company that was doing the testing lost there cert.

its the same reason our state dropped the inspections on cars. way to many doing illegal stuff. you could get a car passed if you could find the right mech. give him a few bucks on Wednesday when he was broke your car would pass. some shops would fail a car, then charge for the fix even if there was no problem. you would then pass but it was going to cost you $50 bucks or more for the fix.
 
True for olders models

True for olders models

baldbastard said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but..

The kickstand switch is for an idiot light only. These bikes did not have the kill (if you will) feature newer bikes have which would prevent shifting into gear with the kickstand down.
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Yes! My 82 GS1100G had an idiot light only linked to the kickstand, but my 98 Bandit would shut down if I pushed the kickstand down when it was running. Even older GS models (and some of the smaller displacement models) don't even have the idiot light.
 
$15 a year here but the inspectors just check for minimal things.
 
I would not take my bike back to that shop. The mech apparently doesn't know Jack Schitt about older bikes. Yes, you should fix the fork seals before trying to get another inspection done. Then ask some guys on the street, check out local websites and call around to "interview" the shops before going there. There has to be one local shop where there is a mech who knows older bikes.
If this bonehead can't get it through his brain that the GS series don't have a sidestand kill switch, he is useless to you and simply a drain to throw your money down.
 
my Canadian 83 550e has a side stand idiot light and clutch interlock no saftey switch for nuetral or side stand. no safety check needed in Alberta. unless it is a out of province bike or some insurance companies want a check.
 
switched was bypassed below the seat and my mech friend is going to cert it tomorrow with no need for seals. I took it out for 100k run and no oil on the forks or a drip anywhere, my carbs did over flow on one trip about 50 ml gas after shutdown, over about 5 min. anything to worry about? My guess would be new floats and inlet gasket.
 
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