• Required reading for all forum users!!!

    Welcome!
    Register to access the full functionality of the GSResources forum. Until you register and activate your account you will not have full forum access, nor will you be able to post or reply to messages.

    A note to new registrants...
    All new forum registrations must be activated via email before you have full access to the forum.

    A Special Note about Email accounts!
    DO NOT SIGN UP USING hotmail, outlook, gmx, sbcglobal, att, bellsouth or email.com. They delete our forum signup emails.

    A note to old forum members...
    I receive numerous requests from people who can no longer log in because their accounts were deleted. As mentioned in the forum FAQ, user accounts are deleted if you haven't logged in for the past 6 months. If you can't log in, then create a new forum account. If you don't get an error message, then check your email account for an activation message. If you get a message stating that the email address is already in use, then your account still exists so follow the instructions in the forum FAQ for resetting your password.

    Have you forgotten your password or have a new email address? Then read the forum FAQ for details on how to reset it.

    Any email requests for "can't log in anymore" problems or "lost my password" problems will be deleted. Read the forum FAQ and follow the instructions there - that's what we have one for...

  • Returning Visitors

    If you are a returning visitor who never received your confirmation email, then odds are your email provider is blockinig emails from our server. The only thing that can be done to get around this is you will have to try creating another forum account using an email address from another domain.

    If you are a returning visitor to the forum and can't log in using your old forum name and password but used to be able to then chances are your account is deleted. Purges of the databases are done regularly. You will have to create a new forum account and you should be all set.

oil cooler compatability with GS1100

  • Thread starter Thread starter Guest
  • Start date Start date
G

Guest

Guest
On the bay, a cooler off of gsxr 750. probably not compatible with the air cooled gs1100...Don't want to ruin Trippivot's good work from last week on the cams. Just thought I would take a shot as it was cheap... Thanks in advance...
 
bellucci said:
On the bay, a cooler off of gsxr 750. probably not compatible with the air cooled gs1100...Don't want to ruin Trippivot's good work from last week on the cams. Just thought I would take a shot as it was cheap... Thanks in advance...
Click to expand...

Find a cooler from an 1150, or a GS750ES (83 and up) Your 1100ES block is plumbed for the hardline coolers used on the later models (what Im running on MY ES) the two big bolts at the bottom front of the motor come out, Banjos of the same size go in with the 1150 cooler lines..you'll have to figure out a mounting bracket but easy enough and Bobs your mothers brother...
 
Thanks for the direction to take... I saw a thread that had a picture of the filter cover with a metal plug inserted(eaasy now...)to divert the oil flow to the cooler. I assume that I would not have to get a different cover... I will do a search... Thanks again.
Curt
 
It doesn't just screw in where the bolts where? Mine came with a cooler already installed. How do I know if it's hooked up properly? How is the 1150 Oil filter cover different?
 
The 1150 oil filter cover was designed with a cast in galley blockage. If you take off the filter cover and look at the bottom right corner(as you are sitting on the bike),there is a circular casting. If you compare each bottom corner, and they look the same, you have the wrong cover. If you have that cover, it is not designed to send oil thru the cooler...I am looking for the mod to the standard cover that diverts oil to the cooler. If I find the picture, I will let you know where to look...
Curt
 
bellucci said:
The 1150 oil filter cover was designed with a cast in galley blockage. If you take off the filter cover and look at the bottom right corner(as you are sitting on the bike),there is a circular casting. If you compare each bottom corner, and they look the same, you have the wrong cover. If you have that cover, it is not designed to send oil thru the cooler...I am looking for the mod to the standard cover that diverts oil to the cooler. If I find the picture, I will let you know where to look...
Curt
Click to expand...
I have the cover you need, And a DERALE cooler. You'll have to replace the lines.
 
bellucci said:
Take a look at this site... It explains the theory really well...http://theflyingbanana.com/oil-cooler.htm. I have just not seen used 1150 filter covers for sale used in a while. Thats why I am trying to modify the standard 1100 cover...
Curt
Click to expand...

Wow that is a great description. The only thing I might mention is that I have heard of and seen in the manual the fact that these is a n oil cooler "by-pass", unfortunately it is only mentioed in the manual under "Lubrication System", on the oil path schematic.

I'm going to repost this link in Popoular Technical info.:p

Thanks Bellucci

But then again, we must keep in mind that there is a by-pass valve incorporated in the oil-system's design, so that (for example) if the oil-filter is hopelessly blocked, then the valve is opened so that the engine doesn't starve of oil. And in the event of a blocked oil cooler, the same valve would perform the same function. [And thanks to Warwick for pointing out the bleedin' obvious to me on this one!]
Click to expand...
 
posplayr said:
Wow that is a great description. The only thing I might mention is that I have heard of and seen in the manual the fact that these is a n oil cooler "by-pass", unfortunately it is only mentioed in the manual under "Lubrication System", on the oil path schematic.

I'm going to repost this link in Popoular Technical info.:p

Thanks Bellucci
Click to expand...

Ok so then this answers my next question.. I was about to freak out because I put an 1150 filter cap on my bike, and I have an 1150 cooler to mount but I hadnt made up a bracket for it yet. Plus its not really hot enough here yet to worry about it, and since my STOCK filter cap had been modified for the Derale cooler i used to have on it, I couldnt use the stock cap. I thought maybe the 1150 cap with no cooler would do damage...this proves that it WONT do any damage correct?
 
I am not sure if you can run a 1150 cover without a oil cooler... I will read the info I saw again and try to respond tomorrow... Wiser people on this site might be able to help... I do remember Rapid Ray talking about this in a older thread... I will search tomorrow... Cafe Kid, I will contact you about the cover and the cooler... I do like the idea of a factory plumbed cooler... We shall see what makes the most sense... meanwhile I wait for a valve cover gasket to arrive..
 
TheCafeKid said:
Ok so then this answers my next question.. I was about to freak out because I put an 1150 filter cap on my bike, and I have an 1150 cooler to mount but I hadnt made up a bracket for it yet. Plus its not really hot enough here yet to worry about it, and since my STOCK filter cap had been modified for the Derale cooler i used to have on it, I couldnt use the stock cap. I thought maybe the 1150 cap with no cooler would do damage...this proves that it WONT do any damage correct?
Click to expand...
You've done it now :rolleyes:
 
TheCafeKid said:
Ok so then this answers my next question.. I was about to freak out because I put an 1150 filter cap on my bike, and I have an 1150 cooler to mount but I hadnt made up a bracket for it yet. Plus its not really hot enough here yet to worry about it, and since my STOCK filter cap had been modified for the Derale cooler i used to have on it, I couldnt use the stock cap. I thought maybe the 1150 cap with no cooler would do damage...this proves that it WONT do any damage correct?
Click to expand...

Seems to me that the cover adds a restriction in the system so I wouldn't use it without the cooler.
 
I think thats what I read also... Cafe Kid, I will pm you on the cover and cooler...
Curt
 
Nessism said:
Seems to me that the cover adds a restriction in the system so I wouldn't use it without the cooler.
Click to expand...
Yes, not advisable. You are then relying on the small gap in the 1150 circular restrictor casting, and the emergency bypass for flow. To be honest, I haven't looked at the details on the emergency bypass.....I'm not sure the oil gets filtered with it open.:-k
Better to get a used 82/83 stock filter cover and throw it on till you have the cooler bolted on.
Tony.
 
Last edited:
Mysuzyq said:
Yes, not advisable. You are then relying on the small gap in the 1150 circular restrictor casting, and the emergency bypass for flow. To be honest, I haven't looked at the details on the emergency bypass.....I'm not sure the oil gets filtered with it open.:-k
Better to get a used 82/83 stock filter cover and throw it on till you have the cooler bolted on.
Tony.
Click to expand...

The small hole in 1150 cover allows oil to by pass the cooler but still goes through the filter; the small hole is where all the oil would have come out for a stock 1100 cover.

The Factory manual shows a by pass around the filter. That is the question ; where is it. Someone at one point said it was the spring behind the filter but that would be in the wrong direction. Oil apparently travels from outside to the inside of the filter before running back to the rear oil pressure switch.
 
posplayr said:
The small hole in 1150 cover allows oil to by pass the cooler but still goes through the filter; the small hole is where all the oil would have come out for a stock 1100 cover.

The Factory manual shows a by pass around the filter. That is the question ; where is it. Someone at one point said it was the spring behind the filter but that would be in the wrong direction. Oil apparently travels from outside to the inside of the filter before running back to the rear oil pressure switch.
Click to expand...

I too remember hearing something about the spring, Jim, and also one theory that stated it had to do with the construction of the filters themselves....they have a bypass designed to open in the event of a severely clogged element. I have not really looked into it in detail, but I think we can all agree that the 1150 cover will restrict all but around 20% of normal flow, without a cooler in place to complete the circuit. TFB says this condition will cause the bypass to open, to alleviate oil starvation, but this means the oil is bypassing the filtering element too....not the way one would want to run his bike.
Tony.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

E
Engine oil cooler- gs1100e 1982
Replies
7
Views
94
e23mike
E
S
The Great & Terrible Ask "which exhaust headers not made for the 650G fit the 650G"
Replies
1
Views
59
jdub6092
jdub6092
CincinnatiKid
81 gs1100e, a top end rebuild story
Replies
19
Views
332
first timer
first timer
SamLack99
[1982 GS750T] Pilot Screw Adjustment and Vacuum Sync Confusion...
Replies
10
Views
142
rphillips
R
W
Choke Plunger Replacement
Replies
4
Views
107
Wright 83 GS650
W
Back
Top