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    New law limits kids on social media use.

    This is a first, and, unexpectedly, it comes from UTAH, but it is waaaaay overdue

    From NBC News

    Utah Gov. Spencer Cox signed two pieces of sweeping social media regulation into law Thursday that require social media companies to get parental consent for minors using their services, making Utah the first state to impose such measures in the U.S.

    Versions of the regulations are being considered in four other states and in several federal proposals in Congress.

    The new Utah laws — H.B. 311 and S.B. 152 — require that social media companies verify the age of any Utah resident who makes a social media profile and get parental consent for any minor who wishes to make a profile. They also force social media companies to allow parents to access posts and messages from their child’s account.

    The laws also prohibit social media companies from displaying ads to minors, showing minor accounts in search results, collecting information about minors, targeting or suggesting content to minors, or knowingly integrating addictive technologies into social media apps used by minors. They also impose a curfew on the use of social media for minors, locking them out of their social media accounts between 10:30 p.m. and 6:30 a.m. based on the location of a user’s device, unless adjusted with the consent of a parent.

    Utah’s laws come amid ongoing debates about the impact of social media on young people’s mental health, a link that is widely theorized but remains the subject of academic study. Mental health issues among young people have been labeled a crisis, with particular concerns about the mental health of young women.

    Social media companies have until March 1, 2024, to comply with the laws, at which point they become punishable with potential civil and criminal penalties.

    In interviews with NBC News, sponsors of the legislation said that they were motivated by mental health concerns posed by social media use among young people, and that they hope Utah’s new laws serve as inspiration for other states or for Congress.

    “I don’t think we’ve ever seen a time in American history where mental health has been so problematic,” said Utah state Sen. Michael McKell. “I hope we see action across the nation.”

    McKell said the Utah bills were home-brewed legislation developed in a working group over the last year.

    State Rep. Jordan Teuscher, who co-sponsored one of the Utah bills, said the group heard from representatives and lobbyists from major social media companies like Google and TikTok.

    “As you can imagine, the social media companies hired almost all of the major lobbyists in Utah to try to affect the bill,” he said. “They were not very successful in deterring us from our objectives.”

    In a statement, a Meta spokesperson said: “ We want teens to be safe online. We’ve developed more than 30 tools to support teens and families, including tools that let parents and teens work together to limit the amount of time teens spend on Instagram, and age verification technology that helps teens have age-appropriate experiences. We automatically set teens’ accounts to private when they join Instagram, and we send notifications encouraging them to take regular breaks.” The spokesperson added, “We’ll continue to work closely with experts, policymakers and parents on these important issues.”

    Critics of the laws say that they are a form of government overreach that will have effects outside the borders of the state.

    “There’s no way for a platform to know who is or isn’t a full-time Utah resident,” said Ari Cohn, free speech counsel for the tech policy think tank TechFreedom. Cohn said it’s unfeasible to think that social media companies could parse out Utah residents from visitors to the state, or nearby users connecting to the internet via cellphone data networks.

    “The only way the platforms can ensure full compliance will be by actually age verifying everyone,” he said. “And that’s the problem with the state-level bills like this, is that they basically regulate the internet for everyone.”

    Cohn added that age verification poses a major risk for security and speech online.

    “Age verifying everyone means you no longer have an ability to be anonymous online on social media,” he said. “Think about all the ways that social media is used to criticize powerful people, elected officials, tyrannical governments, or what have you, without fear of retribution.”

    Cohn also noted that not every child lives in a nurturing household, and that allowing parents access to kids’ social media history could lead to potential abuse.

    The policies, Cohn said, could even create equity issues by potentially locking out kids whose parents aren’t readily available to provide consent.

    Teuscher said the considerations don’t outweigh his priority of child mental health.

    “When we see hockey stick increases in mental health issues, there is a role of government to step in and say, ‘Hey, is there something that we need to do to protect the health of our citizens and especially the health of minors,’” he said.

    So far Utah is the only state to have passed such regulations, which potentially open the door for social media companies to shut out users from the state if the companies aren’t willing to comply with the rules.

    Outside of Utah, legislation that includes social media parental consent for some minors is being considered in four states: Ohio, Minnesota, Connecticut and Arkansas.

    Currently there is no central organization providing draft language to the states, so each state is considering slightly different rules with which social media companies would need to comply. Several of the states, for instance, would only require parental consent for children under age 16.

    McKell said those potential differences could actually be a good thing.

    “That’ll force Congress to the table,” he said.

    There are currently two pieces of legislation in Congress that would restrict minor access to social media. If signed into law, they would create minimum ages for social media use, without the option of parental consen


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    I'm all for eliminating anonymous interest usage, how else do we hold people accountable for what they post? I'd be willing to have a verified user account for the serious stuff and pay a small fee to be anonymous somewhere else on the net for entertainment purposes.

    Stuff that's labeled as entertainment (The way Q Anon started) would be separated from the "Consensus Reality" version of the internet so a nerd game doesn't become yet another version of Q Anon like it did last time. Cable News would have a field day uncovering the others sides lies while still keeping THEIR OWN lies but everyone has to be warned it's BS ahead of time.
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      #3
      All laws are limited by their ability to be enforced. Who do they think will be enforcing social legislation? It isn't going to be parents, we know it will not be the kids and it's a safe bet it isn't going to be the social networks, so who is going to do it, or did anyone consider that part?
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        #4
        Originally posted by earlfor View Post
        All laws are limited by their ability to be enforced. Who do they think will be enforcing social legislation? It isn't going to be parents, we know it will not be the kids and it's a safe bet it isn't going to be the social networks, so who is going to do it, or did anyone consider that part?
        It could be said to be a first step and, following that line of thought, whether one wants to simply move from a couch to a toilet or to head out on a years-long tour of an entire country.....one always begins with a first step....

        Also, legislation on the same subject is already before Congress....
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          #5
          Originally posted by argonsagas View Post

          It could be said to be a first step and, following that line of thought, whether one wants to simply move from a couch to a toilet or to head out on a years-long tour of an entire country.....one always begins with a first step....

          Also, legislation on the same subject is already before Congress....
          Enforcement could easily be achieved by compelling the industry to put timed lockouts on access. Easy its been doable for years.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Cipher View Post

            Enforcement could easily be achieved by compelling the industry to put timed lockouts on access. Easy its been doable for years.
            Here's another one of those easy things that could have happened years ago, "Family Friendly" DNS servers. Don't want the kids to see porn? Don't let them find it!
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              #7
              You cannot legislate morality. Topics like this are quite ridiculous. You can't even stop minors from getting guns legally because their parents sign off on it, then commit mass murder, and you're worrying about what kids wank off too?

              "Unexpectedly comes from Utah!" Are you kidding me?

              I like motorcycles, banged a few chicks on them too. That's the truth, is it immoral, or did we have a good time? (We had a good time, in case anyone was wondering)

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                #8
                Originally posted by Suzukian View Post
                You cannot legislate morality. Topics like this are quite ridiculous. You can't even stop minors from getting guns legally because their parents sign off on it, then commit mass murder...

                motorcycles...a few chicks...
                Well put.

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                  #9
                  One of the big problems with all this "parental controls" stuff is that it's pretty annoying & time consuming to set-up in most cases (sometimes downright difficult as it's affected by "family" settings & can often be broken by an update or filters out the wrong thing (like the kids school account for example).
                  I'm right in the middle of this now due to my kids ages, pretty tech savvy (but also pretty busy) and it's a minefield...
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                    #10
                    Hey, I've got a machine shop well enough equipped to make any handgun or rifle I want. I've also taught my 23 year old how to machine. He thinks about making ground effect aircraft, and parts for computers (Crazy cases and stuff). The country is full of people like me who have small machine shops and can make their own weapons if they so wished, it doesn't take long either. In Connecticut they passed an "Assault Rifle Ban". My Ruger 10-22 has a wooden stock, but with one screw, I can turn it into an "Assault Rifle". It's a stock rifle. I can order a 200 round clip, by law I'm, limited to a 10 round clip, so I carry 5, 10 round clips in my pocket if I'm hunting varmints, which, to be honest, is very rare.

                    My son finished his computer yesterday, it has 20 Gigs of ram on the video card alone. $2800 bucks for a video card. I taught him how to build computers, but this beast he built, and his knowledge of working the registry, well, he's almost caught up to me, and will be passing me soon. I can hack most programs open, but I've been doing code since 1973. People have no idea how tech savvy some kids are.

                    My Winchester Model 94, well, to be honest, It's never been shot. It's from 1973, Nickel Plated, and engraved. Too collectible, so I have a Marlin 30-30 for house defense, which really isn't necessary, but I learned when I moved up here,everyone has at least a long rifle or shot gun in their house. We have 3 police officers, and 2 State Police Resident Troopers. We never de-funded the police, we're too cheap to pay them. This is a primarily Repub town too.

                    When the Sandy Hook School massacre happened, which was 20 miles from my town, the police, knowing me, deputized me, and had me use my car, and a bar of rebar, to block a trail leading into the High School. I could let kids go home, but they told me to whack the crap out of anybody trying to come in. No one did, many people honked their horn at me giving me a thumbs up, I know a lot of people in this town.

                    You can't stop a lone person bent to do something unless someone happens to be in the right place in the right time to do so. It's virtually impossible. People can do more damage with driving a truck into a group of people. What will we do, ban trucks? Look what Timothy McVeigh did with a small truck and 3 barrels of oil laced Fertilizer.

                    What legislation would have stopped that?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Suzukian View Post
                      You cannot legislate morality. Topics like this are quite ridiculous. You can't even stop minors from getting guns legally because their parents sign off on it, then commit mass murder, and you're worrying about what kids wank off too?

                      "Unexpectedly comes from Utah!" Are you kidding me?

                      I like motorcycles, banged a few chicks on them too. That's the truth, is it immoral, or did we have a good time? (We had a good time, in case anyone was wondering)
                      I totally agree with everything you just said! And yes I laughed to when the poster said "unexpectedly from Utah"....he must not get out much...lol
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                        #12
                        Good for you, Utah...

                        Get everything set up to monitor minor's activity and content when online. Check!!
                        Then, after you set up your anti-LBGQ+, anti-transgender, anti-minority agendas, it will be much easier to catch "those" people.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Baatfam View Post
                          Good for you, Utah...

                          Get everything set up to monitor minor's activity and content when online. Check!!
                          Then, after you set up your anti-LBGQ+, anti-transgender, anti-minority agendas, it will be much easier to catch "those" people.
                          Yep for a country that says they enjoy their "freedom" so much they sure like to monitor each other a lot...lol
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Baatfam View Post
                            Good for you, Utah...

                            Get everything set up to monitor minor's activity and content when online. Check!!
                            Then, after you set up your anti-LBGQ+, anti-transgender, anti-minority agendas, it will be much easier to catch "those" people.

                            A gentle reminder:

                            The thread topic is about efforts aimed at providing some form of effective, and very much needed, social media protection for CHILDREN..

                            Please try to stay on topic.



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                              #15
                              Originally posted by argonsagas View Post


                              A gentle reminder:

                              The thread topic is about efforts aimed at providing some form of effective, and very much needed, social media protection for CHILDREN..

                              Please try to stay on topic.


                              And you clearly don't understand Utah...I am on topic.
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