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    #16
    Makes me wonder if car behind him was really making him nervous or just trying to make excuse for his actions after recording something he thought was worth mentioning.?

    That was a thing with a bunch of people recording dashboard stuff....they caused more of the drama they were recording instead of it being spontaneous.

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      #17
      Amen to that.
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        #18
        Once I briefly participated in a "charity run." Someone called Dee Snyder organises one every summer here. He was in a band, either Twisted Sister or Quiet Riot or some other rhymey name. What did he sing? "We're Not Gonna Take It!" Didn't The Who do that decades before, only a thousand times better?

        So I paid maybe $30 to enter a beach parking lot. My friend tells me, "Don't look directly, but that trailer over there, that's the Hell's Angels." Big deal.

        I couldn't even ride near my friend, because we had arrived at different times. We get underway, and it's incredibly slow riding, long formation with police escort. No passing, no accelerating, in 10 minutes I'm bored out of my skull. I split.

        Never again.
        1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

        2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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          #19
          Good thing about group rides
          ..when they turn one way, ya can turn the other...LOL

          I was ask by co worker to go for a ride , his g/f on back of his bike, my wife (g/f) then rode her own and I was on my own....we went about forty miles and stop at a fuel station , they needed fuel and we got something to drink and got on I-70 westbound...co worker took off probably 85-90 MPH...we went around the speed limit,

          They were so far ahead of us my G/F pointed toward off ramp, so we get off hwy and suggested we head south and see her brother..we did...lol co worker texted me half hour later asking what happened to us, I said we decided to head back home.

          When I first moved to Missouri, there was a small motorcycle shop in the neighborhood, I went there and guy invited me to join his motorcycle club...think it was called local......freedom. of the road riders??

          I did went to first get together, was told they have a meeting and then go for a ride..

          The meeting was two hours of arguing what route the ride after the meeting was going to be...LOL
          Out of thirty people , only half went on the ride. Some didnt ride because they didn't like the route that was decided on, some just wanted to go home

          so after a few miles that group split up, and ended up with the guy with the shop, four other guys and myself.

          that was last time I had anything to do with them...LOL
          I even paid to join, I did get some kind of newsletter via regular mail for about a year.

          they disbanded, but heard a new bunch has taken over that same local freedom of the road club?
          I have one more riding /invited to..with a club story to a special needs for kids workshop..best one maybe later.

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            #20
            Went on a group ride as a 'guest' of my friend. At one point, on a two lane (in each direction) highway, we were taking up both lanes. I was in the left lane and wanted to go faster, but I stayed with the group. However...

            I noticed that there were cars lined up behind us in the left lane who wanted to go faster. But they couldn't because the group was occupying both lanes. How rude! I tried to signal to some of the riders in the left lane with me, but they seemed to be in their own world. 'We own the road (most were on Harleys) and frig everybody else!' Just because they were going 65-70 mph, they seemed to feel that what's behind them didn't matter. I was embarrassed to be with them.
            1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

            2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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              #21
              I knew the Hell's Angel President of the Connecticut chapter. He was a really nice guy. He seemed to have a clear disdain for anybody in any of the clubs, including his own. I had complimented him on his mirrors, the front side was stain glass, and the back side, regular mirrors. These things we works of art. I till this day have never seen anything like that. He knew I was a loner. He seemed to have more respect for guys that road, than the guys who needed to dress like each other and follow themselves around. I was riding my Yoshima CB400F then, and my reputation proceeded me. He really liked that bike, the stripped down look, and what people had told him about how crazy fast I drove it around.

              These guys are all organized criminals. They mostly deal in Meth and if you don't do Meth, and have nothing that has to do with their "business model", they will not interact with you. They don't give a cr@p if you zoom their group at 120 mph, they don't care that you exist. I don't care that they exist, though the Meth part of it destroys too many lives, so let them get caught and rot in hell. As far as any group goes, I usually can't ride with more than 2 people, and that has been many years ago. I've only ridden with one other person in the last 10 years, and he said I ride too fast, so he won't ride with me, heck, he won't even talk to me know, and his house is 500 feet from mine! He doesn't talk to anyone though. He's a dry drunk.

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                #22
                Got roped into one Charity Run - Never again.
                I think it's time to stop pussyfooting around the language we use for road carnage.
                We say accidents happen or there was a crash as if these things materialise out of the quantum vacuum.
                99.99% of the time at least one person did something really stupid. Reckless, incompetent or careless doesn't really affect the outcome.
                Accident needs to be retired and be replaced by something more realistic.
                Driver error, driver incompetence or some such. Instead of saying accidents happen, instructors will say you will maim and kill unless......
                After you cause something bad to happen you get put on a register of bad drivers and you get to have a placard on your vehicle for ten years if or when you get your license back.
                The rest of us are due fair warning about the skillset of drivers we have to share a road with and on whom we depend for our lives
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                  #23
                  The running in the middle of a crash thing reminded me of the first time I vacationed in the mountains with my some of my boys. We were on the ski slope (no snow) and I had told them, Don't run downhill or you won't be able to stop (found that out when I was there in my teens...). Anyway, at some point my third youngest (who would've been about 10 1/2 at the time) comes flying past us downhill taking huge strides. Didn't say a word, just passed us. He went off into the woods and got balled up in there and finally stopped. Really I think he laid back on his backpack and slid and finally stopped. Thank God he didn't hit a tree or get hurt. I don't remember how funny it was at the time, but it's funny every time I remember it now.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by JMHJ View Post
                    The running in the middle of a crash thing reminded me of the first time I vacationed in the mountains with my some of my boys. We were on the ski slope (no snow) and I had told them, Don't run downhill or you won't be able to stop (found that out when I was there in my teens...). Anyway, at some point my third youngest (who would've been about 10 1/2 at the time) comes flying past us downhill taking huge strides. Didn't say a word, just passed us. He went off into the woods and got balled up in there and finally stopped. Really I think he laid back on his backpack and slid and finally stopped. Thank God he didn't hit a tree or get hurt. I don't remember how funny it was at the time, but it's funny every time I remember it now.
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                    You reminded me of being a scout leader and teaching kids (as well as other leaders) how to go up a hill.

                    They would struggle and get tired while ascending and I would pass them with ease, while moving much quicker...,
                    To them it seemed impossible, but while it is something many of us never learn, it is actually simple. .
                    .
                    Just lean into the hill.
                    "If you scare people enough, they will demand removal of freedom. This is the path to tyranny."
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by JMHJ View Post
                      The running in the middle of a crash thing reminded me of the first time I vacationed in the mountains with my some of my boys. We were on the ski slope (no snow) and I had told them, Don't run downhill or you won't be able to stop (found that out when I was there in my teens...). Anyway, at some point my third youngest (who would've been about 10 1/2 at the time) comes flying past us downhill taking huge strides. Didn't say a word, just passed us. He went off into the woods and got balled up in there and finally stopped. Really I think he laid back on his backpack and slid and finally stopped. Thank God he didn't hit a tree or get hurt. I don't remember how funny it was at the time, but it's funny every time I remember it now.
                      When I was a kid ,around eight yrs old exact same thing happened to me,
                      lucky just few sore spots ,didn't end my recklessness for the summer however, few weeks later while climbing a tree and very high up i slipped at fell down, tumbling and hitting branches all the way down.
                      Luckly the number of branches and type of tree helped.
                      By some miracle I didn't get hurt very much
                      ..maybe some brain damage as evident in my prolonged participation in the vortex...LOL

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                        #26
                        I wasn't so lucky.
                        I passed a sticky out nail on the way down and it opened me up a bit.
                        What type of idiot leaves nails in climbable trees?
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                          #27
                          Sorry gonna go back to the group ride stories..lol

                          I was asked by friend in a motorcycle club to join them on a ride to special needs children workshop?

                          The club had plenty of members and it was a large but diverse group, it had members from all walks of life.

                          Some firemen, paramedics, construction workers , but it also has some criminal badarse guys in it to.

                          News credited several members one time in a article about how they had turn their lives around.
                          The group did the charity runs, toys for tots and other events.

                          But when this event to ride and show bikes and visit special needs workshop......only four or five guys wanted to go.

                          So my friend who was in the club started calling everyone he knew with a motorcycle, they didn't care if you was in the club or not

                          There were thirty five or so special needs kids waiting to see a bunch of shiny , loud motorcycles pull up.

                          99% of the guys in club had harleys, so when friend called I mentioned I didn't have a harley, he said it didn't matter, the kids were expecting a bunch of bikes...it was during what I call the big chopper fad times
                          Lol.
                          Friend manages to get about two dozen people on motorcycles to participate.

                          We pull up kids are all happy and excited, looking and talking about motorcycles for fifteen twenty minutes.

                          Then they invite us riders to go inside and see some of the craft and things the kids were doing.

                          This one thing they made was (cant describe it to good) was a small cube with patterns that went together kind of like a jigsaw puzzle.

                          We got matched up with a kid to put one together.
                          All the other riders got matched up with very nice sweet soft spoken kids,
                          I got paired up with a kid who was loud and kinda obnoxious LOL this is meant to be funny and I'm not putting the kid in a bad light at all, I'm just trying to describe...

                          none of us riders could put them together that well and the kids were nice and calm explaining how to do it.

                          Cept the kid I was paired with, I hadn't been trying to put this cube together for four seconds and he starts yelling.." HE CANT DO IT ,HE CANT DO IT!!
                          And didn't stop , in about a minute I got it together, but the kid just kept yelling HE CANT DO IT HE CANT DO IT..he never quit saying it...LOL.

                          As we got on the motorcycles to leave and were saying goodbye...I could hear the kid in the distance...yelling HE COULDN'T DO IT HE COULDN'T DO IT...

                          All the riders when we stopped at a burger King a mile away to chat and go our separate ways.....they all were laughing and cracking jokes about it....
                          One of those things you had to be there maybe..LOL
                          Last edited by trent; 08-13-2023, 08:30 PM.

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