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  • Mafiera
    Forum Apprentice
    • Apr 2021
    • 21
    • Cardiff UK

    #1

    Clutch jammed while riding

    Hi
    I have a GS750 1977
    While riding the other day I had to keep tightening the clutch cable as it was getting really hard to get into neutral
    I stopped to adjust again and the clutch got jammed and wouldn't release
    I managed to unjam it and rode home
    I have burrs on item 6 in the pic where it has worn over the years
    Is this the cause for clutch jamming and do I need to replace it
    Thanks
    Marco
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  • allojohn
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    • Jan 2011
    • 3515
    • NoMo, MN

    #2
    I photo of the burrs might help - upload an image. When did you last set the adjustment screw (item 8) at the clutch?
    -Mal

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    • tatu
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      • Jun 2010
      • 3175
      • UK

      #3
      Have you checked the cable itself? When it's on it's last legs it's possible that fraying could jam the cable
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      Don't say can't, as anything is possible with time and effort, but, if you don't have time things get tougher and require more effort.

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      • Baatfam
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        • Jul 2006
        • 18755
        • Knoxville, TN

        #4
        Originally posted by tatu
        Have you checked the cable itself? When it's on it's last legs it's possible that fraying could jam the cable
        Yes....I agree...check the cable...
        Bob T. ~~ Play the GSR weekly photo game: Pic of Week Game
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        • rphillips
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          • Jun 2005
          • 7618
          • Norene TN

          #5
          Yes, sounds right. You said you'd been having to keep tighten the cable. That would be because it was probably fraying & stretching. like said, fraying can get caught up inside the sheath. Hope that's all it is, simplest fix there can be.
          1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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          • Mafiera
            Forum Apprentice
            • Apr 2021
            • 21
            • Cardiff UK

            #6
            So
            I cleaned everything up
            Replaced cable
            Set up clutch
            Everything good drove down the road fine
            Went for a blast and thought it was sorted
            Stopped at my mates for a quick coffee into neutral no problem

            Tried the clutch after and couldn't get neutral
            Had to adjust all the way out on handlebar adjustment and still couldn't get neutral
            Had to adjust at the bottom so I could get neutral

            Went back today and checked the adjustment below and set out a quarter turn
            Readjusted clutch - Sweet
            Took it out for 15 miles
            Stopped for fuel and the same again had to adjust all the way on handlebar etc

            Any ideas?


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            • zed1015
              Forum Mentor
              • Oct 2020
              • 411
              • North Lincolnshire - UK .

              #7
              When you adjust the clutch are you having to screw in the pushrod adjuster further and further to get the clutch to release.
              If this is the case it's possible that the center nut on the clutch basket is working loose.
              This would also explain the clutch release ramp mechanism going over center causing it to jam fully disengaged.
              Either that or the threads are stripped on the pushrod adjustment screw allowing it to be pushed back against the clutch spring pressure when you pull the clutch lever.
              Last edited by zed1015; 06-14-2022, 05:01 PM.
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              • Mafiera
                Forum Apprentice
                • Apr 2021
                • 21
                • Cardiff UK

                #8
                The pushrod is out a quarter turn no need to adjust this
                Seems to be when it gets hot the clutch needs adjusting quite a lot
                Took it out today 10/15 miles and couldn't get neutral
                Let it cool down and it was fine again

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                • zed1015
                  Forum Mentor
                  • Oct 2020
                  • 411
                  • North Lincolnshire - UK .

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mafiera
                  The pushrod is out a quarter turn no need to adjust this
                  Seems to be when it gets hot the clutch needs adjusting quite a lot
                  Took it out today 10/15 miles and couldn't get neutral
                  Let it cool down and it was fine again
                  So heat expansion related.
                  It's possible the lifter mech is worn ( as you summised in your first post) and only lifting the plates just enough to barely disengage when cold and as soon as the pushrod etc expands when warm any clearance you had disappears.
                  I've had the same happen on a hydraulic clutch conversion that only lifted the pressure plate 1mm instead of 3mm which resulted in the exact same behavior.
                  It's also worth checking the plain clutch plates too now to see if dragging has warped them which will make the situation worse.
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