Copper headgasket O-rings.??

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  • Kara25
    Forum Mentor
    • Jan 2019
    • 223
    • Rhodes,Greece

    #1

    Copper headgasket O-rings.??

    Got a NOS gs650 headgasket for my build and noticed that the package didnt contain any rubber orings that are supposed to go to the 4 corner oil holes that the studs go through. Instead on the 4 corners the gasket has embeded 4 copper looking orings. Is that normal? No rubber orings needed like a 550 headgasket???
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  • Kara25
    Forum Mentor
    • Jan 2019
    • 223
    • Rhodes,Greece

    #2
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    • slayer61
      Forum Mentor
      • Jun 2018
      • 302
      • Stuck in Lodi, again

      #3
      Is your NOS gasket OEM? Is it a Suzuki part or something else? I wouldn't think twice if it's a Suzuki part......
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      • Kara25
        Forum Mentor
        • Jan 2019
        • 223
        • Rhodes,Greece

        #4
        slayer61 unfortunately no its an aftermarket gasket but even the OEM ones there was a change on 650 headgaskets down the road the E,G variation were having embeded rubber orings but the 650M (katana) had a headgasket similar to mine with big holes on the 4 corners with a copper looking ring and no other extra orings sitting inside.. i am thinking on putting some P9-P10 orings from an assorment i have laying around in the garage
        GS674 Hybrid -1965 Vespa 90 -1958 BMW R26 https://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/filedata/fetch?filedataid=60921&type=small

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        • GregT
          Forum Sage
          • Jul 2009
          • 3541
          • New Zealand

          #5
          Looking at the pic, the copper rings on the outer corner studs are one - time use crushable rings. If you ever re-use that gasket yes, I'd put rubber o-rings in those holes.

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          • Kara25
            Forum Mentor
            • Jan 2019
            • 223
            • Rhodes,Greece

            #6
            GregT but the rings look so thin i cant understand how they will crush that much to seal the oil passage on the studs. Will it hurt anything if i put 4 rubber orings now? I DONT want to tear this thing down again for leaks
            GS674 Hybrid -1965 Vespa 90 -1958 BMW R26 https://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/filedata/fetch?filedataid=60921&type=small

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            • Kara25
              Forum Mentor
              • Jan 2019
              • 223
              • Rhodes,Greece

              #7
              Ended up putting 4 P8 orings on the 4 corner gasket holes just to be safe
              GS674 Hybrid -1965 Vespa 90 -1958 BMW R26 https://www.thegsresources.com/_forum/filedata/fetch?filedataid=60921&type=small

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              • Grimly
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                • Sep 2012
                • 5764
                • Ireland

                #8
                Are the corner back stud holes on the 550/650 used as an oil feed, same as the other engines? Be careful, if so.
                Dave
                '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
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                • Kara25
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                  • Jan 2019
                  • 223
                  • Rhodes,Greece

                  #9
                  Grimly yes if i am correct the oil is shot up from the 2 holes on the back and drains by gravity on the two on the front. I didnt want to risk it and not put anything so i used 4 P8 orings that sat inside the hole of the gasket very nicely held down by a little bit of vaseline until i torqued the head.
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