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  • igoldin74
    Forum Apprentice
    • Oct 2020
    • 32
    • Chicago

    #1

    Cannot switch into neutral while stationary

    After I replaced my friction plates and clutch springs it seems that I am not able to switch into neutral while stationary, especially it is literally impossible to do so from first gear- the shift lever just won’t go up. While the bike is coasting or with engine off, I can go into neutral pretty easily. Is it cable adjustment?
    1982 Suzuki GS650G project in BRG
    2004 Honda CRF250r
    2010 HD FatBob in Black
    2007 HD XL883L in Maroon - sold
    2008 Kawasaki Versys 650 daily rider in Red - sold
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  • rphillips
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    • Jun 2005
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    #2
    Is the cable adjusted right? if not that could be the problem. Also is the little arm on the clutch cover sitting in the right position? The idea is to get the most movement of that little arm with one complete pull of the lever.
    1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100

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    • salty_monk
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      #3
      Did you get an "extra plate" kit? They are known for that. If not then expect it to be cable adjustment
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      • Who Dat?
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        • Jun 2012
        • 461
        • On the edge.

        #4
        Start with adjusting the cable. After you are sure that is good, polish up the new clutch plates a bit.

        Put the front wheel up against something that will not move and will not be damaged by the tire. Put the transmission in a higher gear. Reve the engine a bit (3-4k), slide the clutch for a few seconds. Repeat this a couple of times.

        The new plates have some high points that are evidently just enough to grab the adjacent steel plates. Sliding the clutch a bit as described will burnish off the high spots.
        If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.

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        • igoldin74
          Forum Apprentice
          • Oct 2020
          • 32
          • Chicago

          #5
          It has worked its way in. Seems better now but still a bit edgy. I think it will be alright after couple of hundred miles.
          1982 Suzuki GS650G project in BRG
          2004 Honda CRF250r
          2010 HD FatBob in Black
          2007 HD XL883L in Maroon - sold
          2008 Kawasaki Versys 650 daily rider in Red - sold
          2006 Triumph Bonneville America in Grey - sold

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          • bwringer
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            #6
            Heavier aftermarket clutch springs cause excessive drag. You didn't say what clutch springs you used, but all new OEM springs, or three OEM and three aftermarket springs, will usually work a lot better and result in a much more user-friendly clutch pull.
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            • igoldin74
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              • Oct 2020
              • 32
              • Chicago

              #7
              Yes, it appeared that I ordered EBC springs which were HD. I did install 3 oem and 3 new HD springs. The issue has resolved on its own and might have been attributed to new plates not being broken in.
              1982 Suzuki GS650G project in BRG
              2004 Honda CRF250r
              2010 HD FatBob in Black
              2007 HD XL883L in Maroon - sold
              2008 Kawasaki Versys 650 daily rider in Red - sold
              2006 Triumph Bonneville America in Grey - sold

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              • salty_monk
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                #8
                Did you soak the plates in oil for a while before you fitted them? That makes a difference too.
                1980 GS1000G - Sold
                1978 GS1000E - Finished!
                1980 GS550E - Fixed & given to a friend
                1983 GS750ES Special - Sold
                2009 KLR 650 - Sold - gone to TX!
                1982 GS1100G - Rebuilt and finished. - Sold
                2009 TE610 - Dual Sporting around dreaming of Dakar..... - FOR SALE!

                www.parasiticsanalytics.com

                TWINPOT BRAKE UPGRADE LINKY: http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...e-on-78-Skunk/

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                • igoldin74
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                  • Oct 2020
                  • 32
                  • Chicago

                  #9
                  Originally posted by salty_monk
                  Did you soak the plates in oil for a while before you fitted them? That makes a difference too.
                  I did. And I think after break in it’s all good now.
                  1982 Suzuki GS650G project in BRG
                  2004 Honda CRF250r
                  2010 HD FatBob in Black
                  2007 HD XL883L in Maroon - sold
                  2008 Kawasaki Versys 650 daily rider in Red - sold
                  2006 Triumph Bonneville America in Grey - sold

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