Low RPM clutch rattle fix?

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  • GS1100EZEE

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    Low RPM clutch rattle fix?

    My '82 1100EZ has the infamous clutch rattle. Did some research here and pulled it apart yesterday looking for the loose center hub nut or loose basket rivets. Neither one seems to be the problem. Don't know if the hub nut was 36-50 ft/lbs but the tab was still up and it was fairly tight. I guess the clutch basket springs are the next culprit. The 3 small springs are tight in their casing but the 3 large springs seem a little loose and rotate freely. Anyone know if this is the cause? I read about a quick fix using a screwdriver to expand the springs and tightening them up. I suppose I could try this and throw it back together to see if that's the fix but then I'd just have to pull it apart again for a more permanent repair. Which brings up the next question - how do you replace the springs? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
  • bwringer
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    #2
    Ear plugs.
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    • GS1100EZEE

      #3
      Well....

      I did say any and all help. Thanks

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      • jamminjimmy

        #4
        NO EAR PLUGS!
        Check the spring in the back of the hub, after years of banging on the road they get pretty loose. A aftermarket replacement hub from Ward performance or Falcon or American performance.

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        • blowerbike
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          • Aug 2008
          • 7057
          • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

          #5
          you can have your basket rebuilt into a heavy duty model.
          no need to pay falicon or ward big bucks.
          i can do it..john pearson can do it.APE can do it ect..
          if there is no movement between the gear and basket then just let her rattle as long as you don't red line or bang gears EVER!
          if so then have it built into an H/D basket.

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          • jamminjimmy

            #6
            Home made and cheap dont allways mean best,
            How much is your motor worth?

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            • blowerbike
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              • Aug 2008
              • 7057
              • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

              #7
              for one i'm not cheap.
              plus the people i named are professionals with decades of experience.
              you may want to re-think what you just posted.

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              • Agemax
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                • Apr 2008
                • 8371
                • plymouth uk

                #8
                Originally posted by jamminjimmy
                Home made and cheap dont allways mean best,
                How much is your motor worth?
                i rebuilt my own clutch with H/D hub springs and pressure plate springs. had the hub rivets welded. hundreds of drag style starts, wheely clutch abuse and still not a sign of a rattle or a failure. if its done correctly there isnt a problem.
                obviously a proffessional H/D clutch would be better if you can afford it
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                • posplayr
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                  #9
                  Here is a link to the Flying Banana website that describes what Agemax has done in term of spring replacement using the OEM backing plate. It was done on a 1000 I think.




                  For the 1100's generally a HD backing plate is well advised with the HD nut to keep the basket in place. It can cost $300 to have the HD basket installed. I have bought HD baskets off ebay for under $100, but you can probably expect to pay $150. (make sure you get beveled teeth)

                  Beyond the HD kit, there are also Billet hubs and straight cut gears but that is something else again (tis will be expensive so you can tell).

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                  • Agemax
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                    • Apr 2008
                    • 8371
                    • plymouth uk

                    #10
                    Originally posted by posplayr
                    Here is a link to the Flying Banana website that describes what Agemax has done in term of spring replacement using the OEM backing plate. It was done on a 1000 I think.




                    For the 1100's generally a HD backing plate is well advised with the HD nut to keep the basket in place. It can cost $300 to have the HD basket installed. I have bought HD baskets off ebay for under $100, but you can probably expect to pay $150. (make sure you get beveled teeth)

                    Beyond the HD kit, there are also Billet hubs and straight cut gears but that is something else again (tis will be expensive so you can tell).
                    thats pretty much the deal except you used to be able to purchase a kit, with h/d springs and new rivets. cant seem to find them anymore
                    1978 GS1085.

                    Just remember, an opinion without 3.14 is just an onion!

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Agemax
                      thats pretty much the deal except you used to be able to purchase a kit, with h/d springs and new rivets. cant seem to find them anymore

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                      • GS1100EZEE

                        #12
                        You guys are the best.

                        Gotta get this done before the warm weather hits. Thanks alot!

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                        • GabrielGoes
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                          • Jun 2010
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                          • New York

                          #13
                          would an new oem clutch hub (80 bucks) and a ape nut be good enough? im thinking about going that route..
                          John 3:16

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