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  • DannyMotor

    #1

    no oil in glass?

    So after running for a while I shut the bike off... let it settle and look in the sight glass... nothing. Bike is on the center stand and just filled with a full 4 quarts... what gives? The motor says 3400ml so I'm way over that.
  • tkent02
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    #2
    Tip to the side to see how full it really is, four quarts should be past the window, maybe the new oil is so clear you can't see it?
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    • Steve
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      • Jun 2005
      • 35925
      • southwest oHIo

      #3
      You may have to tip the bike in both directions.

      If it is over-full, tipping to the left will raise the window past the oil level.

      If it is under-full, tipping to the right will raise the oil to the level of the glass.

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      • DannyMotor

        #4
        Gotcha. Ill give that a go. No wheels on it right now, so itll have to wait.

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        • TheCafeKid

          #5
          And, after shut off I've found it takes a few minutes or more for the oil to make its way back down from various places to show in the window. Don't fill it any more before you let it sit a bit, or you'll over-fill.

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          • fishfarm
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            • Mar 2011
            • 662
            • Florida

            #6
            If mine is at the full mark cold, it will show "high", ie, above the window when it's hot.
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            • Nessism
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              #7
              Four quarts is too much. Most likely over filled, or you are not parked on level ground - bike needs to be on center stand before you check the oil level.
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              • chuck hahn
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                • May 2009
                • 25918
                • Norman, Oklahoma

                #8
                Post 4..no wheels on it right now. So lift the rear too high and all the oil runs frontward and you see nothing...back too low and all the oil runs rearward and shows too full. I would suggest you get the wheels on it and setting at the proper front to back geometry to check it. But 4 Qts is maybe 1/2 quart too full which isnt a catastrophy by any means. Let it be till you can sit it up the right way.
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                • DannyMotor

                  #9
                  Yeah... to be frank, the motor was completely drained as in no side covers, filter cover, or cam cover and flipped completely upside down. So knowing that I dont think I'm too far off.

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DannyMotor
                    Yeah... to be frank, the motor was completely drained as in no side covers, filter cover, or cam cover and flipped completely upside down. So knowing that I dont think I'm too far off.
                    The 3400 ml is full from a bone dry dead empty motor from the factory, so 4 qts your over full.

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                    • chuck hahn
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                      • Norman, Oklahoma

                      #11
                      3.6 quarts is what 3400ML converts to. 4 quarts is just over 3700.. 4 quarts is a bit high like has been said..by about 6 ounces or so..not a real problem i wouldnt think.
                      Last edited by chuck hahn; 04-21-2012, 07:15 PM.
                      MY BIKES..1977 GS 750 B, 1978 GS 1000 C (X2)
                      1978 GS 1000 E, 1979 GS 1000 S, 1973 Yamaha TX 750, 1977 Kawasaki KZ 650B1, 1975 Honda GL1000 Goldwing, 1983 CB 650SC Nighthawk, 1972 Honda CB 350K4, 74 Honda CB550

                      NEVER SNEAK UP ON A SLEEPING DOG..NOT EVEN YOUR OWN.


                      I would rather trust my bike to a "QUACK" that KNOWS how to fix it rather than a book worm that THINKS HE KNOWS how to fix it.

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                      • DannyMotor

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hjfisk
                        The 3400 ml is full from a bone dry dead empty motor from the factory, so 4 qts your over full.
                        Originally posted by chuck hahn
                        3.6 quarts is what 3400ML converts to. 4 quarts is just over 3700.. 4 quarts is a bit high like has been said..by about 6 ounces or so..not a real problem i wouldnt think.

                        My Clymer manual says after a full rebuild (which I would expect to mean bone dry) you will need to fill with 4.2 quarts.

                        Anyhoo... I did install my rear wheel and pull it back and then sat it forward on a jack-stand (forks are being rebuilt) and the oil did fill the glass.. It's to the full line.

                        My fault for not having common sense here... haha.

                        On a side note... my oil light is still MIA. Checked the ground, checked the bulb... they're all good. The light never came on bone dry and still not when it's completely full. So, I'm at a loss.

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