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I’m trying to diagnose a dead #2 on my 83 gs750es. It has pods and was jetted but never ran well. I just realized #2 is cold so I tested everything i can think of. Valve clearance is spot on. I had an issue with my pickup coils being bent but fixing that didn’t make a difference. I swapped the plug wire between 2 and 3 with no effect. It is sparking the plug fine. The plug has gas on it when i checked its condition and gap. The confusing thing is the compression. I get 100 psi on every cylinder except 2 which is 130 psi. I’m not sure if im hearing things but when i have the guage on 2 and turn it over sometimes I hear a “ ting” sound. When I try to make it do it again I can’t, so I never get a good idea whats making the sound. I cant account for the high compression and the fact it wont fire with gas and spark. Is there a way just 2 can be out of time? I’m lost. I just rebuilt the carbs, the RIGHT WAY!, and replaced everything and dipped them - the whole 9 yards. I figured I better do that to rule out flooding in that cylinder. Please help.1983 GS750ES WITH UNI PODS, 4-1 KERKER
We can rebuild her. We have the technology.
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It's rare, but a plug can fire outside the cylinder, but under compression, not fire. swap the #1 & #2 plugs, just to be sure the #2 plug is firing under compression. won't take but a minute. If #1 quits firing, it's the plug.1983 GS1100E, 1983 CB1100F, 1991 GSX1100G, 1996 Kaw. ZL600 Eliminator, 1999 Bandit 1200S, 2005 Bandit 1200S, 2000 Kaw. ZRX 1100
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What all was included in the "everything" that was replaced?Originally posted by EDGECRUSHER View Post... I just rebuilt the carbs, the RIGHT WAY!, and replaced everything and dipped them - the whole 9 yards. ...
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did this with no effectOriginally posted by rphillips View PostIt's rare, but a plug can fire outside the cylinder, but under compression, not fire. swap the #1 & #2 plugs, just to be sure the #2 plug is firing under compression. won't take but a minute. If #1 quits firing, it's the plug.1983 GS750ES WITH UNI PODS, 4-1 KERKER
We can rebuild her. We have the technology.
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every o-ring, hard parts were soaked and cleaned like i said. I had dynojet #130 mains in and i swapped them for dynojet #124’s. No other changes. I have new intake boot orings but my testing did not show any vacuum leaks there, so I’m holding onto them for now.Originally posted by Steve View PostWhat all was included in the "everything" that was replaced?
.1983 GS750ES WITH UNI PODS, 4-1 KERKER
We can rebuild her. We have the technology.
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I suppose this weekend I’ll need to pop the top off again and just confirm valves moving and timing is on. Doesn’t seem to be a lot to timing this engine. I don’t see any adjustments at the pickups...
I just really think this is something with the engine more than anything1983 GS750ES WITH UNI PODS, 4-1 KERKER
We can rebuild her. We have the technology.
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The pilot jet is the most common culprit. Under the Rubber plug next to the main jet. It has a VERY small hole in the end that can plug up in just a few weeks with Ethanol gas. You need a length of 30 gauge solid wire (.25mm) to clean it out. Hold it up to a light and make sure you can see through it. You DID put new rubber plugs in, right? You need them. I rebuilt a set of carbs in October and ran the bowls out of gas but didn't drain them. In February it wouldn't start and had 3 of 4 pilot jets plugged, and this in the # 1 and 2 bowls:
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I popped the top and the valves aren’t sticking. They have to be shutting all the way because I have compression. Ive heard the gasket can go bad between cylinders and cause a cylinder to read high but I’d imagine the other cylinder would show some kind of loss as well.1983 GS750ES WITH UNI PODS, 4-1 KERKER
We can rebuild her. We have the technology.
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Sounds like a carb problem.Ed
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next time i see you post a question ill ask it back to you too lolOriginally posted by Cipher View PostDid this thing run fine prior to the work you did.
Or at least fire all four cyls?
How is 100 on 3 and 130 on 1 high compression?
You swapped plugs swap plug caps
or move coils.1983 GS750ES WITH UNI PODS, 4-1 KERKER
We can rebuild her. We have the technology.
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