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    #16
    Originally posted by jdub6092 View Post
    Unfortunately, I have had a defect for every piece I've painted, and no exception for the tank.
    Had a paint run on the other side, which will require me to do a blend of both base and clear.
    Already did a blend on one of the side covers an ended up with two tone silver.
    This is what separates a painter from a hobbyist.



    Would hate to screw this up because I would like to sell one of my tanks.
    Same boat, hang in there.
    Tom

    '82 GS1100E Mr. Turbo
    '79 GS100E
    Other non Suzuki bikes

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      #17
      Yep sono*@%^$*@%^$*@%^$un. It's a frustrating experience sometimes. I'm repainting my bandit and damaged the basecoat on the front fender. Do all the work to repair, blended it in and dang fly landed on the exact spot within a minute I'm sure. On to round 3.
      Your work is looking really nice overall, yes hang in there. And have a beer when it's done!
      1986 1150EF
      2008 GS1250SEA

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        #18
        Originally posted by jdub6092 View Post
        Unfortunately, I have had a defect for every piece I've painted, and no exception for the tank.
        Had a paint run on the other side, which will require me to do a blend of both base and clear.
        Already did a blend on one of the side covers an ended up with two tone silver.
        This is what separates a painter from a hobbyist.

        20250711_073348 by jchaswhite, on Flickr

        Would hate to screw this up because I would like to sell one of my tanks.
        If it were me, I wouldn't worry about blending in your base coat and clear coats. I would first sand your tank completely with 600 then spray your sand-throughs with a couple of light coats of primer. Otherwise base coat may eat through the outside edges of your sanded areas. Spray the entire tank with your silver base coat but make the coats pretty dry so it won't eat the repair, followed by several coats of clear.
        1979 GS1000S,

        1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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          #19
          Originally posted by nvr2old View Post

          If it were me, I wouldn't worry about blending in your base coat and clear coats. I would first sand your tank completely with 600 then spray your sand-throughs with a couple of light coats of primer. Otherwise base coat may eat through the outside edges of your sanded areas. Spray the entire tank with your silver base coat but make the coats pretty dry so it won't eat the repair, followed by several coats of clear.
          The first 2-1/2 coats of clear have been wet sanded with 600 and further dulled and smoothed with gray scotch.
          I've already applied the decals on one side so dropping another coat of base is not an economical option.

          I really need to find a way to repair this. The only positive is this area is surrounded by curves that can make a transition less noticeable.
          Spraymax spot blender didn't really help the side cover repair.

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            #20
            Originally posted by jdub6092 View Post

            The first 2-1/2 coats of clear have been wet sanded with 600 and further dulled and smoothed with gray scotch.
            I've already applied the decals on one side so dropping another coat of base is not an economical option.

            I really need to find a way to repair this. The only positive is this area is surrounded by curves that can make a transition less noticeable.
            Spraymax spot blender didn't really help the side cover repair.
            I misunderstood your situation. You have no choice but to blend the silver. I would still spray a couple of light coats of primer on the sand through to protect the edges from lifting. Then spray the silver followed by a couple of coats of clear before letting it dry overnight. Sand lightly before putting the decals on. It sounds difficult but you're doing fine.
            1979 GS1000S,

            1982 Honda CX500 Turbo, 1982 Honda MB5 w/CR80 motor, 1977 Honda "nekid" Goldwing, 1976 Honda CB550F cafe', 1972 Honda XL250 cafe'

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              #21
              Originally posted by nvr2old View Post

              I misunderstood your situation. You have no choice but to blend the silver. I would still spray a couple of light coats of primer on the sand through to protect the edges from lifting. Then spray the silver followed by a couple of coats of clear before letting it dry overnight. Sand lightly before putting the decals on. It sounds difficult but you're doing fine.
              Yep, that sounds like good advice.
              Would you spray the base over the added primer after it flashes or let it dry and feather sand for a smooth transition before base and clear?
              I was thinking I should spray the base out to the front edges and close to the curves using open loop tape masking to avoid sharp edges. Then blend the clear at the curves. Ill try the spot blender again understanding that it really only helps when the color match is close.

              Silver metallic is a challenge to match, even when the paint comes from the same pint.

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                #22
                Where the primer ends, and you transition onto the existing clear, could be ripe for paint lifting when the new coats go down. Fingers crossed for you...
                Ed

                To measure is to know.

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                  #23
                  Any progress? This is what happens a few seconds after you discover orange peel....... At least its easily fixable. bandito.jpg
                  1986 1150EF
                  2008 GS1250SEA

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Big Block View Post
                    Any progress? This is what happens a few seconds after you discover orange peel....... At least its easily fixable. bandito.jpg
                    first attempt failed and was a shame since the paint match was absolutely perfect and undetectable. However I had a hideous low spot that while small, was very noticeable. Now the area to blend area is quite a bit larger and have one more try before a total redo. Maybe will try today.

                    Orange peel and runs on paint or clear? Clear is the easiest to fix. If you can easily fix base coat runs and orange peel, please clue me in. Especially if you are shooting metallics.

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                      #25
                      No, it was in the clear. One reason I painted this one black is the ease of fixing it though. Good luck on round 3 it will be satisfying in the end.
                      1986 1150EF
                      2008 GS1250SEA

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                        #26
                        May have pulled this off.
                        Started with spot painting with open paper loops surrounding the repair area to avoid sharp lines.
                        Removed the paper and tape and used spot blender on the transitions.
                        Waited about 30 minutes, then a light coat of Spraymax clear. Let it flash then a heavy coat of clear over an expanded area. Then applied more spot blender over the transition areas.

                        20250720_074307(1).jpg
                        Need to work fast as I have a near full can of expensive clear with limited pot life.
                        Says it can last 48 hours if kept cool. Will put in fridge til the current coat cures.

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                          #27
                          Looks good from here; I hope it sticks.

                          I have painted my two sets of '83 blue parts and learned some lessons. All of the first coat of clear, much of which needed cut-back with 600 grit, carefully, is now prepped (after it sat while I was away for a couple of weeks). Well, except for a tank dent that I inexplicably missed, which has a high/low area over a ridge. Jeez! There were bigger problem areas to fix, and they came out great, but I took my eye off the big picture on that one area.

                          I was looking at it and thought, hmm, that high spot seems like it could be popped in. I did a few gentle, then not-so-gentle love taps with the heel of my hand, and it popped into shape like magic. Then I leveled it with a little skim coat and didn't break through the base coat when sanding it back. I think I can reapply a shot of base, then clear over it right away, and it will be good. At least it's the backup tank, but I'm pretty confident. The base coat paint I have lays down so well. I just need to do the clear at the right time of day, and not do it in the hot sun, LOL. I gotta do the decals, I hope I don't screw that up.

                          This is tough stuff for people who don't paint a lot. I probably have spent 4x the time a reasonably competent painter would, but that's how things go.

                          Oh - I was at a local paint store and they had a gallon of 4:1 clear with activator on clearance for $60. That will last me a while. Got lucky, it's good stuff so I'm keeping my can of 2K for spot fixes on other stuff I guess. They say 2 days but I had a can sitting for several weeks and it shot just fine. Mabye just lucky.
                          Last edited by oldGSfan; Yesterday, 05:11 PM.
                          Tom

                          '82 GS1100E Mr. Turbo
                          '79 GS100E
                          Other non Suzuki bikes

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                            #28
                            That's looking good.
                            1986 1150EF
                            2008 GS1250SEA

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by oldGSfan View Post
                              Looks good from here; I hope it sticks.

                              This is tough stuff for people who don't paint a lot. I probably have spent 4x the time a reasonably competent painter would, but that's how things go.
                              I hear ya. Had to completely redo the plastics then got a better gun and cheaper paint that actually was a better match. If I do another paint job, it will be a lot faster. Cant rush prep though.

                              BTW, the steps in the OP were not even close to the actual steps I ended up following.

                              Originally posted by oldGSfan View Post
                              Oh - I was at a local paint store and they had a gallon of 4:1 clear with activator on clearance for $60. That will last me a while. Got lucky, it's good stuff so I'm keeping my can of 2K for spot fixes on other stuff I guess. They say 2 days but I had a can sitting for several weeks and it shot just fine. Mabye just lucky.
                              That doesnt sound right. Are you sure the activator was released? I had a couple of sputters after about 4 days with a previous can. It didnt have a lot left though.



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                                #30
                                Originally posted by jdub6092 View Post

                                That doesnt sound right. Are you sure the activator was released? I had a couple of sputters after about 4 days with a previous can. It didnt have a lot left though.
                                Yeah mine was more than half full. It def was activated. I may have soaked the nozzle in some strong stuff like xylene. I remember thinking no way it'll still flow, but it did.
                                Tom

                                '82 GS1100E Mr. Turbo
                                '79 GS100E
                                Other non Suzuki bikes

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