Uncle Mike's BIKE Dead on Chicago Expressway - Coil question

Okay, I've set up a photobucket account - BassCliffDonation. The password is 2ServeMan. I figure we can use it for posting up content for Cliff to use on his site, if there's not a process already.

Image located here.

I can also email the .jpg or .pdf to anyone who wants it.

I'm inclined to agree with you. Most models, those things are all on the same fuse. (tail,sigs, cluster lights..) I'm no 1150 expert as I've never seen one in person, but I'm gonna bet that the fuse block is almost proprietary at least as far as the connector goes. I'm not sure another GS block will just hook right up.

That being said, if he wanted to test this theory, wouldn't it be simple enough to pop the wires out of the connector and run a temporary jumper between them to see if the failure is in fact the block? Testing with a VOM for continuity would work, but if it's intermittent he may not find it bad... I dunno. Electrical goober thinking aloud here...

Nope, it is the same as the 1100E, I checked the parts fiche.
Popping the wires out of the connector can be done by someone who knows how to do it correctly.

Incidentally, if you do find the fuse box is the problem, we could probably acquire a universal replacement and install it tomorrow out here ... Have soldering equipment, heat shrink, etc. (and skillz) to get this done if need be. Obviously, if you are able to bypass a bad fuse block circuit and ride out that would be the easiest solution, but will come down with the trailer if need be.

Standing by

You're a gentleman and a scholar, sir. I'll keep you posted.

Incidentally, if you do find the fuse box is the problem, we could probably acquire a universal replacement and install it tomorrow out here ... Have soldering equipment, heat shrink, etc. (and skillz) to get this done if need be. Obviously, if you are able to bypass a bad fuse block circuit and ride out that would be the easiest solution, but will come down with the trailer if need be.

Standing by

To scan and post up the wiring diagram would be helpful.

On it. Have it in a few minutes.

Just spoke to bwringer. Had a nice long conference, and here is what he suggests: He believes it is the fuse box. If someone whos bike has the same style fuse box ( 5 AGC fuses, like an 1100E ) could temporarily remove theirs and take it over and swap, Mike may be out of the woods. Or at least found the culprit. They can be patched up, I did it on mine once.

To repeat: Mike needs a fuse box to test if his is bad or not. Volunteers?

I'm inclined to agree with you. Most models, those things are all on the same fuse. (tail,sigs, cluster lights..) I'm no 1150 expert as I've never seen one in person, but I'm gonna bet that the fuse block is almost proprietary at least as far as the connector goes. I'm not sure another GS block will just hook right up.

That being said, if he wanted to test this theory, wouldn't it be simple enough to pop the wires out of the connector and run a temporary jumper between them to see if the failure is in fact the block? Testing with a VOM for continuity would work, but if it's intermittent he may not find it bad... I dunno. Electrical goober thinking aloud here...

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Mike has in his possession the Factory Suzuki Service manual and a fresh multimeter, which is pretty much all that will be needed to troubleshoot.

To scan and post up the wiring diagram would be helpful.

Just spoke to bwringer. Had a nice long conference, and here is what he suggests: He believes it is the fuse box. If someone whos bike has the same style fuse box ( 5 AGC fuses, like an 1100E ) could temporarily remove theirs and take it over and swap, Mike may be out of the woods. Or at least found the culprit. They can be patched up, I did it on mine once.

To repeat: Mike needs a fuse box to test if his is bad or not. Volunteers?

Should I hook up my trailer and come get you, or is the bike inside somewhere where you can keep working on it (we're getting light rain up here right now)? Shoot me a phone call if you like and we can discuss your evil master plan...

Regards,

Not just yet. Without a plan for how to actually tackle this harness, I don't want to bring it anywhere until I know I can fix it.

Should I hook up my trailer and come get you, or is the bike inside somewhere where you can keep working on it (we're getting light rain up here right now)? Shoot me a phone call if you like and we can discuss your evil master plan...

Regards,

Anyone up for providing a beginner's tutorial for hunting down shorts in the harness?

Off to my softball game (7-8pm). Offer is still open to bring the bike here and work on it together tonight / tomorrow if you feel confident you can get here safely without the lights working correctly. Still an hour or so of daylight...

'Later,

I don't want to risk it with no brakelight or turnsignals. Plus, I'm not experienced enough to hunt down a short.

Off to my softball game (7-8pm). Offer is still open to bring the bike here and work on it together tonight / tomorrow if you feel confident you can get here safely without the lights working correctly. Still an hour or so of daylight...

'Later,

That is the one thing I could not figure out, not having a wiring diagram in front of me. Someone needs to donate a PDF copy to BassCliff so he can post it on his site. But I agree, I suspect there is a central location. Only makes sense on such a catastrophic failure.

I pulled those apart and put them back together but didn't see anything obviously amiss.

When I get back home I'll scan my diagram and send it to Cliff.

Just a semi educated guess but I bet all those things are on the same multiplug under the tank by the coils... Probably one that comes off the ignition switch.

That might be too easy though!

That is the one thing I could not figure out, not having a wiring diagram in front of me. Someone needs to donate a PDF copy to BassCliff so he can post it on his site. But I agree, I suspect there is a central location. Only makes sense on such a catastrophic failure.