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  • lrgguy

    #61
    Originally posted by rustybronco
    Personally I'd like to see you re-measure the voltage coming out of the stator "without being connected to anything" (out of circuit) @ 5000 rpm.
    Ok thats the first thing I will do when I get home from work ..now its a little tricky to hold the throttle to keep the revs at 5000 rpm while doing test .but if I putthe choke on that gets me just above 4500 rpm will that do ? Or should i adjust idle a little so rpms are axactly at 5000

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    • rustybronco
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      #62
      Masking tape and a sharpe.

      Label a pair, label the second pair 2, label the third ....
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        #63
        Originally posted by lrgguy
        Meaning what ? Lol
        Meaning some electrical noise may be interfering with your electronic meter readings causing them to bounce around or you are using the wrong scale for the readings you are making. rustybronco's last suggestion for reading between the three pair of stator leads on the 200Volt AC setting at 5,000 RPM may tell you a lot. If the stator reads differently on the three stator leads or low you need not bother with the R/R at this time. It should read about 70 VAC on all three pair combinations.

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          #64
          Put the leads in a pair of wires, start bike, rev engine, look at meter. Wash rinse and repeat for the other two pairs

          Put three dots in a triangle on a piece of paper. How many times can you connect the two leads from the volt meter up to those three dots?
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          • lrgguy

            #65
            Originally posted by OldVet66
            Meaning some electrical noise may be interfering with your electronic meter readings causing them to bounce around or you are using the wrong scale for the readings you are making. rustybronco's last suggestion for reading between the three pair of stator leads on the 200Volt AC setting at 5,000 RPM may tell you a lot. If the stator reads differently on the three stator leads or low you need not bother with the R/R at this time. It should read about 70 VAC on all three pair combinations.
            When I did this teat last nite , all the numbers were in the 20's once the number was 50 ..
            But ill be happy to run the test again ...

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              #66
              It's the jumping around that bothers me... Shouldn't be doing that.

              Make sure you have a good connections AND, remember what I said about the wall socket? There was a reason for saying what I did. Care to guess why?
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                #67
                My '78 and '79 with split Rectifier and Regulator both cooked it's stator. This test will give you the best answer as to its condition. Always double check your results and leave your pride at the door. There are no stupid questions except the ones you don't ask. What he said about the erratic readings. Maybe it's time to do all the required harness, plug switch and ground maintenance. It might eliminate some tail chasing. Check your plug caps, they would be the first suspect for radio frequency noise.
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                • lrgguy

                  #68
                  Originally posted by rustybronco
                  Put the leads in a pair of wires, start bike, rev engine, look at meter. Wash rinse and repeat for the other two pairs

                  Put three dots in a triangle on a piece of paper. How many times can you connect the two leads from the volt meter up to those three dots?
                  There should be 9 ways to test these wires ? No ?

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                  • lrgguy

                    #69
                    Originally posted by rustybronco
                    It's the jumping around that bothers me... Shouldn't be doing that.

                    Make sure you have a good connections AND, remember what I said about the wall socket? There was a reason for saying what I did. Care to guess why?
                    Well we would like to see how accurate the tester is ??

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                      #70
                      YEP, and to see if it's jumping around.

                      Originally posted by lrgguy
                      There should be 9 ways to test these wires ? No ?
                      Three... When the meter is in the A.C position lead polarity means zip. Alternating Current goes positive, then negative, then positive, then negative.... W-R-R
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                      • lrgguy

                        #71
                        Originally posted by rustybronco
                        YEP, and to see if it's jumping around.
                        while doing the quick test yeaterday from the battery on dc volts the numbers didnt bounce around .. dont know if that tells us anything ?

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                          #72
                          As Ed (nessism) likes to say. "To measure is to know"
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                          • lrgguy

                            #73
                            I understand how frustrated this must be for people trying to assist newbie's like myself rectifie issues like this over text ... and I am very apprecitive !!

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                              #74
                              The three-phase alternator, as the name implies, has three single-phase windings spaced such that the voltage induced in any one phase is displaced by 120 from the other two. A schematic diagram of a three-phase stator showing all the coils becomes complex, and it is difficult to see what is actually happening. The simplified schematic of figure 3-8, view A, shows all the windings of each phase lumped together as one winding.

                              Figure 3-9 "wye connected" (second set of blue boxes)

                              A-B, B-C, C-A
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by lrgguy
                                I understand how frustrated this must be for people trying to assist newbie's like myself rectifie issues like this over text
                                The only thing remotely frustrating is when you don't read what we say. Everything is said for a reason.

                                Can't help if we don't have the answers we require.
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