Has battery tech evolved enough to change over?

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  • cowboyup3371
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    #16
    Originally posted by posplayr
    I think Eil's comment on topping off refers to charge state.
    Yea sorry, I didn't read it that way at first but that sounds logical
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    • Guest

      #17
      Originally posted by tkent02
      It's just not required, an AGM sitting idle all winter will be over 99% charged in June. Hell I have let one sit four years with no charging at all and it was still reading 13 Volts.
      Yeah, think I've used mine once in 3 years since I got the AGM.

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      • Guest

        #18
        Thanks all. I took the advice, and couldn't be happier with the AGM.

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        • mikerophone
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          #19
          Which one did you get, and how much did it cost?
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          • Guest

            #20
            My 450 has the same issue of making it almost impossible to check fluid levels without pulling the battery out, which means resetting the clock on the Acewell every time... last time I swapped to a Motobatt and haven't looked back.

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            • limeex2
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              • Dec 2012
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              #21
              With the new batteries its all in the set-up. When you put the acid in it for the first time, let it sit overnight with the caps off. It is producing heat with the added acid. Then put the battery tender on it after it has sat and cooled down. The excess heat can warp the thin plates inside the battery. When the plates touch each other(there are many), what was 1 plate is now 2. Unless batteries have drastically changed, this is how Honda trained us to treat new batteries. I just had a Yuasa that lasted over 6 years.
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              • tkent02
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                #22
                Originally posted by limeex2
                With the new batteries its all in the set-up. When you put the acid in it for the first time, let it sit overnight with the caps off. It is producing heat with the added acid. Then put the battery tender on it after it has sat and cooled down. The excess heat can warp the thin plates inside the battery. When the plates touch each other(there are many), what was 1 plate is now 2. Unless batteries have drastically changed, this is how Honda trained us to treat new batteries. I just had a Yuasa that lasted over 6 years.
                Or get an AGM and forget about it.
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                • limeex2
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                  • Dec 2012
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by tkent02
                  Or get an AGM and forget about it.
                  That was meant for agm
                  Current Rides: 82 GS1100E, 00 Triumph 955 Speed Triple:twistedevil:, 03 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 01 Honda GL1800, '15 Kawasaki 1000 Versys
                  Past Rides: 72 Honda SL-125, Kawasaki KE-175, 77 GS750 with total yosh stage 1 kit, 79 GS1000s, 80 GS1000S, 82 GS750e,82 GS1000S, 84 VF500f, 86 FZR600, 95 Triumph Sprint 900,96 Triumph Sprint, 97 Triumph Sprint, 01 Kawasaki ZRX1200, 07 Triumph Tiger 1050, 01 Yam YFZ250F
                  Work in progress: 78 GS1000, unknown year GS1100ES

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                  • Grimly
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by limeex2
                    With the new batteries its all in the set-up. When you put the acid in it for the first time, let it sit overnight with the caps off. It is producing heat with the added acid. Then put the battery tender on it after it has sat and cooled down. The excess heat can warp the thin plates inside the battery. When the plates touch each other(there are many), what was 1 plate is now 2. Unless batteries have drastically changed, this is how Honda trained us to treat new batteries. I just had a Yuasa that lasted over 6 years.
                    Ditto. Every time I've been able to commission a new wet battery and done it right, it's given good service. Nearly every time I've bought a battery from a shop that's been filled by them, it's been mediocre in lifespan.
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                    • rudeman

                      #25
                      I replaced the battery in my 1000EN with a Motobatt. AGM, 2-year free replacement warranty, and only about $15 more than a standard LA battery.

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