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  • cowboyup3371
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    #1

    Seat Pan Mounting Post Repair

    Although I'm going to look for a new seat pan, does anyone know if JB Weld will hold to put the mounting post back in place even as a temporary measure with that much visible rust?

    550T Seatpan from rear by Scott Baker, on Flickr

    550T seatpan by Scott Baker, on Flickr
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  • Nessism
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    #2
    Can't remember how the seat fits but aren't those tabs part of the retention mechanism? If so the answer is no, you can not glue them. The bike won't be safe.
    Ed

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    • cowboyup3371
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      #3
      Yes, they keep the seat from lifting up.
      Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

      1981 GS550T - My First
      1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
      2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

      Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
      Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
      and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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      • Redman
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        #4
        Originally posted by cowboyup3371
        Yes, they keep the seat from lifting up.
        ...and, from sliding sideways. THat was the problem I had when that ripped out of the front of my GK seat.

        I pondered making a plate to mount the mechanism to, then mount the plate with rivits or screws over a larger area/pattern, but with the various contours in the area, that exceeded my fabrication skills.

        (took quite a while, but did find a replacement seat.)

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        Last edited by Redman; 05-19-2018, 09:10 PM.
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        • bwringer
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          #5
          Remove the vinyl and foam, grind and sand the rust and paint down to bare metal, weld in a bit of sheet steel on the back as a reinforcement, then weld the mounting tab back on. This is a fairly straightforward repair if you can scare up a wire feed welder and some bare minimum of skill. Heck, it doesn't even need to be pretty.

          However, the main issue is that you're likely to find a lot more rust -- the other side certainly isn't far behind. The seat pan itself may or may not be salvageable.

          One of the tabs on the frame of my GS850 has been missing for years. The seat can't come off (in fact it's a right royal pain to get the thing off) so I haven't worried about it. In this case, I think the chunk that came out of the seat pan might be weight-bearing, so it's a little more imperative to fix, or at least improvise something so the seat doesn't contact the battery or anything critical... I've ridden a bike or two with bungees holding the seat on. With a little applied creativity you should be able to come up with something safe.

          I've also seen some folks here salvage a badly corroded seat pan by essentially using it as a form or core to construct a fiberglass version.

          Of course, showing up at Brown County on your Bandit wouldn't exactly be a terrible hardship...
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          • cowboyup3371
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            #6
            Thanks Brian, I’ll talk to my buddy to see if he thinks he can re-weld it after I return from Illinois
            Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

            1981 GS550T - My First
            1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
            2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

            Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
            Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
            and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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            • cowboyup3371
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              #7
              Oh someone is looking over my shoulder today. I don’t need to be at the hospital for work until 1 today so I started checking out eBay for a seat. Found one at a salvage yard in Georgia for $175 plus 35 shipping. I just made him an offer for 140 so fingers are crossed. If not I’ll buy it at the $175 today anyway
              Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

              1981 GS550T - My First
              1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
              2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

              Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
              Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
              and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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              • cowboyup3371
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                #8
                They countered with $170 and I am not passing up the chance to get my GS back on the road so I accepted it. The seat cover has some tears on the sides but the pan is in perfect condition from the pictures so it’s on the way
                Cowboy Up or Quit. - Run Free Lou and Rest in Peace

                1981 GS550T - My First
                1981 GS550L - My Eldest Daughter's - Now Sold
                2007 GSF1250SA Bandit - My touring bike

                Sit tall in the saddle Hold your head up high
                Keep your eyes fixed where the trail meets the sky and live like you ain't afraid to die
                and don't be scared, just enjoy your ride - Chris Ledoux, "The Ride"

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                • Redman
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                  #9
                  Real good, especially for a one year part.
                  I had to look for long long time, many months, a year, before I found a decent black one for a GK (which would be 2 year).

                  Good, help to keep the GSs from being a minor minority at the GS rally.

                  .
                  http://webpages.charter.net/ddvrnr/GS850_1100_Emblems.jpg
                  Had 850G for 14 years. Now have GK since 2005.
                  GK at IndyMotoGP Suzuki Display... ... GK on GSResources Page ... ... Euro Trash Ego Machine .. ..3 mo'cykls.... update 2 mocykl


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                  • bwringer
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                    #10
                    Excellent.

                    Sometimes it's well worth a few bucks to skip hours of farting around with something.

                    Shouldn't be too hard to transplant your seat foam and/or cover if it's in better shape.
                    1983 GS850G, Cosmos Blue.
                    2005 KLR685, Aztec Pink - Turd II.3, the ReReReTurdening
                    2015 Yamaha FJ-09, Magma Red Power Corrupts...
                    Eat more venison.

                    Please provide details. The GSR Hive Mind is nearly omniscient, but not yet clairvoyant.

                    Celeriter equita, converteque saepe.

                    SUPPORT THIS SITE! DONATE TODAY!

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                    • Nessism
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                      #11
                      POR-15 paint is a good product to use on rusted seat pans. It protects the metal from further degradation from rust that is so common on those parts.
                      Ed

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                      • aclaytonb

                        #12
                        I use KBS Rust Seal. Either one is awesome for warding off the rot.

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