Side cover post replacement - whats the latest?

[wymple]

I used some plastic automotive body molding push pins glued on with JBW plastic. Works great !!

https://www.amazon.com/Dophee-Fasten...81252223&psc=1

And on the help racks at any auto parts store. They are very useful. I often use them to keep older or broken door panels in place.

[bonanzadave]

I used some plastic automotive body molding push pins glued on with JBW plastic. Works great !!

https://www.amazon.com/Dophee-Fastener-Retainers-Insulation-Plastic/dp/B01DETDKLO/ref=asc_df_B01DETDKLO/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=191929022594&hvpos=1o7&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13111098433289771268&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9019573&hvtargid=pla-309781252223&psc=1

[2BRacing]

….. I hope these replacement posts provide some headache relief for our users.

Well done, great to see modern 3D printing technology being applied to solve "old school" issues!

[Andrew Vanis]

I think the plate would flex to cover all these eventualities if you didn't make it too thick and chamfered it into the post for strength.....
I'm an industrial designer by trade, I tend to err on the side of caution.....It's great that someone is thinking about these things. These have always been a problem

Bigger could be better in this situation though not feasible considering the design differences in applications. Just look at my 750 side cover that needs a post about 1" long and the 550 cover that seems to take a 1/4" post. and then there is that my 750 cover is half on the flt and half on the angled side and the 550 is flat.

Such a solution would take a dedicated design for each model which would take tons of inventory and even more so, a lot of design time with access to every side cover to match.

having the user shape them to their application is the way to go.

And the thing to keep in mind is that the replacement post as provided is holding up really well and is already stronger than OEM with its circular base vs. the minimal OEM X base.

Thanks, I hope these replacement posts provide some headache relief for our users.

[Grimly]

The ABS glue dried seems to make a really good filler. I wonder if the glue is just acetone with dissolved ABS already.

ABS porridged into MBK solvent, as far as I know.
Just going by the ABS / PVC pipe jointing glue that's available here - that's what it is.

[salty_monk]

I think the plate would flex to cover all these eventualities if you didn't make it too thick and chamfered it into the post for strength. You can see they tried to address these breakages with webs on the later side covers.
I'm an industrial designer by trade, I tend to err on the side of caution.

The existing stub can be ground flat easily with a dremel if it sticks out where it broke...
I would think it easier to adapt the cover to match than the new post if that makes sense.

It's great that someone is thinking about these things. These have always been a problem

[Andrew Vanis]

I think you can dissolve some ABS & use it as a filler.......perforated base plate on the new post. fix.

The ABS glue dried seems to make a really good filler. I wonder if the glue is just acetone with dissolved ABS already.

A bse plate is challenging on a retro fix like this. it would have to be engineered to ever bike and, likely, to every situation - just look at the two covers sampled right here. The Blue one need something (almost) flat and my 750 goes up at 45deg on one side.

The ABS glue seems to make a good glue and filler so that each post can be modified as your situation requires and if you don;t get it 'just' perfect, the filler quality of the glue makes up for any imperfections.

Mine is still holding up well.

[salty_monk]

I think you can dissolve some ABS & use it as a filler.. You need it to be ABS so that the glue you're using works on the post. This is one reason I am a fan of having a perforated base plate on the new post. Makes for a stronger fix.

[Andrew Vanis]

In your case, you may have to remove the old glue/filler you have in there first with a Dremel or something so the abs glue bonds well.

that cracking on the outside makes em wonder if the pain is peeling. In any case, remove all the loose stuff because anything glued to that will be weak.

Depending how that crack is you may consider gluing a ABS flat plastic backing plate to reinforce it from the inside (see my pics above) and then gluing the post to that. That will also give you something to fill to from the front side. I like how ABS glue dries up as a filler.

For the existing one you have, when you glue it do a few glue layers. One to attach and then subsequent ones as a gusset.

The following is how I addresses mine.

I had a hole in my side cover where the broken post was because a bolt was used to keep the cover on. When I glued on the post, I put a piece of tape on the outside if the cover, the hole got filled with abs cement as a part of the post for on process. Next day I pulled the tape off and the hole was filled..... And since I had a black cover it looked fairly good.

[Rich82GS750TZ]

Nd my gas tank

Got my pins, thanks Andrew.

So, here?s what I have. Both flat tabs of both panels are in good shape. They?ve been holding the panels on for quite a while. Round pin from right panel had been detached and living in the rubber grommet for so long, I forgot it was there. A previous attempt to glue it had failed, don?t remember what I used, probably crazy glue. There?s a cross shape in the plastic panel that shows me exactly where I need to try to glue it using ABS plumbing glue. And I can use this pin as a guide to cut one bought from Andrew, with one to spare. I even found 2 new round grommets that are still very pliable. Must have bought extras a while ago.

The left panel is going to need a bit more work. My previous repair failed, that pin took a chunk of the panel with it. So I?m going to have to fill that. My only experience with body work is on these panels and my gas tank. The panel was cracked around the base on the pin. I repaired it with filler, bondo, something, don?t remember. It?s the red you see up in the pics. I had the panels and tank professionally painted, and they look pretty good, except where my failed repair took that chunk out and caused the paint to crack.

So I think I?ll sand and repaint both panels some complimentary color after repairing the pins. Maybe I?ll make some custom vinyl GS 750TZ decals. Not a fan of the look of the original T badges.

Any advice on how to fill the hole under where I need to glue on the new pin?

[salty_monk]

....I wonder how the Chinese sellers sell the small stuff for a few bucks including shipping)

It's actually very simple. The Chinese post is subsidised as "a developing economy". That means USPS are not allowed to charge them the real costs which means the rest of the post is subsidising that...

[Andrew Vanis]

PM and payment sent......nevermind, I just read this "standard ABS plumbing glue."

thanks, package mailed.

yep, ABS glue works really well. if your cover is painted where the post is, scrape off the paint so the chemical reaction can bond. Also, I have found the ABS glue a great glue and filler for cracks an to reinforce the back of cracked panels with a piece of ABS plastic (most plastic is ABS. this pic shows a piece of plastic I cut that came from a old monitor stand) if the ABS glue melts it then it should bond. FWIW, I tired using Acetone to glue the 'crack' and it kinda worked. the ABS glue is better....eventually I'll get to a proper fill, sand, and repaint on this cover.

[Rich82GS750TZ]

PM and payment sent.

On one of my side panels, the pin is broken off flush with the panel. On the other, the pin took a chunk of side panel plastic with it. Previous attempts to glue the broken pins on were unsuccessful. What is the recommended adhesive product/technique?

nevermind, I just read this "standard ABS plumbing glue."

[Andrew Vanis]

I'll be buying 2. That's great Andrew. Thank you for your service to the cause (our aging GS's).

COOL! Thanks! paypal to AndrewVanis@gmail.com (please "Send money to a friend" to avoid PayPal charges include your address in the note)

here is the GSR pricing plus flat $4 shipping to USA and actual to the rest of the world

1 at $4 = $4.00 each
2 at $7 = $3.50 each
3 at $10 = $3.33 each
4 at $13 = $3.25 each
5 at $16 = $3.20 each
6 at $18 = $3.00 each
7 at $20 = $2.86 each
8 at $22 = $2.75 each
9 at $24 = $2.67 each
10 at $26 = $2.60 each

PS - these are to OEM dimensions not the extended for the clip. The clip is a great idea but (at least in my case) I couldn't insert the clip with the cover on the bike as reaching around back was too difficult.

PS2 - replacing the aged rubber grommets that these insert into will make installing and removing your existing ones and these new ones WAY easier!

PS3 - when removing, its easier on the panel and the post if you can push out the post from the back if you can get your finger in there.

[Rich82GS750TZ]

I'll be buying 2. That's great Andrew. Thank you for your service to the cause (our aging GS's).