Foam Pods vs. K&N

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  • dtkid

    #1

    Foam Pods vs. K&N

    I want to try using Foam Pods on an 80' GS750L cause I think they will keep the water out of the carbs (on rainy days) better than my K&Ns. In addition, I would like to keep from changing the needles and jets. The cycle I'm working on still has stock needles and jets and I want to keep it that way. Has anyone ever used "Foam Pods"? (I'm having trouble installing the air-box collars). If the Foam Pods don't do the trick I'll just buy new air-box collars as Terry/humhead suggested.

    Much Thanks from the Mountains: dtkid
  • Anonymous

    #2
    I have a 1982 GS 750 EX. I had foam pods on and have since gone to EMGO K&N type both required jetting changes. There is no way I know that you can modify the air intake and not have to change the fuel (jetting). I used 127.5 on the main jet and it works fine with both types of pods. I also have a four into one exhaust. Hope that helps.

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    • Detman101

      #3
      I have emgo pods and I have yet to have any problems running in the rain. If you bike is jetted correctly it should run fine in the rain and out of the rain.

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      • cloudbreakmd
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        #4
        Yeah it surprises me every time Detman comes over and it rains. I had a set on my old Maxim and remember being trapped for a little while at my angry ex-girlfriends apartment. I decided instead of going back in to her warm and dry apartment, to stand in the rain and beg the bike to start while acting as a ground incase any lightning struck.. It started eventually, but backfired as it swallowed water most of the way home. As is my luck I guess...
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        • dtkid

          #5
          its true man

          and i think its' even worse on cold days-- i saw a post here a while back that made me first think about the water the k&n's let in.

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          • KrazyKarl02

            #6
            Having owned 3.5 GS's and 20+ bikes, I will say this, Pod filters whatever brand means you either re-jet or use starting fluid to get the bike going, sometimes both.
            However Rain never was a real problem for me.
            Go ahead, ask me about the .5 GS!!! I dare ya!

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            • Jethro
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              #7
              A few weeks ago I got stuck in a DELUGE. It was raining so hard the sky turned pitch black. Water was pouring into my helmet vents, spraying off the wheels onto my a$$, I looked down at the tires, they had to be in 3 inches of water. My K&N conical pods were no issue whatsoever for the 30 minutes I was in that rain.
              Currently bikeless
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              I ride, therefore I am.... constantly buying new tires.

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              • robinjo

                #8
                Originally posted by KrazyKarl02
                Having owned 3.5 GS's and 20+ bikes, I will say this, Pod filters whatever brand means you either re-jet or use starting fluid to get the bike going, sometimes both.
                However Rain never was a real problem for me.
                Go ahead, ask me about the .5 GS!!! I dare ya!
                *Dares* :twisted:

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                • dtkid

                  #9
                  understanding the scientific process and statistical analysis methodology does in know way provide me with enough expertise to explain the differing behavoir of all of our machines. for a fact: my jets are correct, my plugs look great, the mixture is neither rich or lean and........ my bikes (with k&n pods) take up water when it is cold and rainy...... admittedly, i've only been doing this for 30years but, i also know that physics is physics and sometimes what should or shouldn't work in fact does! i live by this: if chicken-fat works.... use it!

                  thanks for the knowledge and i'll provide feedback on the need "to re-jet or not to re-jet" with these uni-pods (on my 81' gs750l with stock pipes which have been saw-zawwed at the passenger pegs and baffles removed). it could be that some of this is magic- perhaps that is why we ride------the magic.

                  much thanks from the mountains: david

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                  • dtkid

                    #10
                    understanding the scientific process and statistical analysis methodology does in know way provide me with enough expertise to explain the differing behavoir of all of our machines. for a fact: my jets are correct, my plugs look great, the mixture is neither rich or lean and........ my bikes (with k&n pods) take up water when it is cold and rainy...... admittedly, i've only been doing this for 30years but, i also know that physics is physics and sometimes what should or shouldn't work in fact does! i live by this: if chicken-fat works.... use it!

                    thanks for the knowledge and i'll provide feedback on the need "to re-jet or not to re-jet" with these uni-pods (on my 81' gs750l with stock pipes which have been saw-zawwed at the passenger pegs and baffles removed). it could be that some of this is magic- perhaps that is why we ride------the magic.

                    much thanks from the mountains: david

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                    • BriTXbike

                      #11
                      My question doesn't have to do with Pods but is a air filter question.

                      I ordered a new stock filter for my 850G this week. What kind of oil am I supposed to treat it with once I install it? Also I know the weather stripping trick but does it need to be done for both sides of the air box AND the top of the filter element to get a good seal? Not sure what I would use to glue the weather strip to the metal so it does not peel off when trying to reinstall the filter.

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                      • dtkid

                        #12
                        need to know the cycle

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                        • dtkid

                          #13
                          oops

                          sorry: i see now that the first thing you stated was the bike. if the filter is snnugly fit into the air-box as it is in the 750s; you can use weather stripping or a cut piece of foam to seal/snug it up. i have use foam and blue silicone (to stablelize the foam) at the same end of the air box. when i did it, i siliconed a piece of gray foam rubber to the input end and let it cure for a day. it stayed nice and stable for a solid year; then i went to pods.

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                          • andyjohnson

                            #14
                            I installed UNI foam pods and did not have to mess with the carbs at all ('87 GS450). From what I've heard and read the K&N filters let in a lot more air than the UNI pods or stock filter. If your bike runs with the K&N filters and stock jets I would imagine that the jets could handle the UNIs.

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