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  • 78caferacer

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    Need source 4 cylinder sleeves

    I've looked everywhere (virtually) here and on the web for a vendor for a cylinder sleeve for a 78 GS1000. The closest I came was Wiseco.com that had a listing but said they are no longer available. Can someone refer me to a supplier? Many thanks!
  • Nessism
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    I'm not aware of anyone making stock sleeves for a GS engine. If anyone would know what is available I think it would be APE. You might want to contact them and see what they have to say.

    EDIT: Guess I'm wrong on this one.
    Last edited by Nessism; 12-27-2008, 12:46 PM.
    Ed

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    • jed.only

      #3
      Dynoman is your man for sleeves.

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      • 78caferacer

        #4
        Great, thank you. Found them there; no prices, though. Will email them.

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        • jed.only

          #5
          Originally posted by 78caferacer
          Great, thank you. Found them there; no prices, though. Will email them.


          yeah, email or call, i noticed that as well.




          but you didnt ask for price, did you? haha.

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          • doctorgonzo

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            And in a hijack....

            Speaking of cylinder sleeves....

            I got the cylinder block off today (factory fresh, never been off) and got my first good look at them, no scoring really. My question is about measurements. With my calipers I can only check about half an inch down into the cylinder. Do I need to buy a special caliper to take the factory recommended 6 or 8 measurements? Also, they all read at between 69.6 and 69.75. The manual says standard is 70 and 70.1 is oversize. It's a 30k mile motor. Does it seem reasonable they'd still be at below 70 or must I be measuring wrong?

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            • Nessism
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              #7
              Originally posted by jed.only
              Dynoman is your man for sleeves.
              Cool! Glad someone is offering sleeves in stock sizes...since I could use some.

              Looks like LA Sleeve is the supplier... http://www.lasleeve.com/master.html

              Any idea on cost?
              Last edited by Nessism; 12-27-2008, 12:57 PM.
              Ed

              To measure is to know.

              Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

              Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

              Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

              KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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              • Nessism
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                #8
                Originally posted by doctorgonzo
                Speaking of cylinder sleeves....

                I got the cylinder block off today (factory fresh, never been off) and got my first good look at them, no scoring really. My question is about measurements. With my calipers I can only check about half an inch down into the cylinder. Do I need to buy a special caliper to take the factory recommended 6 or 8 measurements? Also, they all read at between 69.6 and 69.75. The manual says standard is 70 and 70.1 is oversize. It's a 30k mile motor. Does it seem reasonable they'd still be at below 70 or must I be measuring wrong?
                Hey Doc,

                You can't measure a cylinder with calipers, you need an inside micrometer or a bore-dial gauge. You might be able to get away with a telescoping gauge with a regular micrometer but at any rate, calipers are no good since they don't have enough resolution.
                Ed

                To measure is to know.

                Mikuni O-ring Kits For Sale...https://www.thegsresources.com/_foru...ts#post1703182

                Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                • Suzuki mad

                  #9
                  Westwood cylinder liners here in the UK.



                  Suzuki mad

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                  • doctorgonzo

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nessism
                    Hey Doc,

                    You can't measure a cylinder with calipers, you need an inside micrometer or a bore-dial gauge. You might be able to get away with a telescoping gauge with a regular micrometer but at any rate, calipers are no good since they don't have enough resolution.
                    That's the answer I needed. Thanks Ed. In the words of Ray (I think)... mo money... mo money... mo money....

                    I was probably going to let a shop do the hone (probably as cheap as buying a flex hone and they know what they're doing). I guess I'll let them measure for me as well.
                    Last edited by Guest; 12-27-2008, 01:05 PM.

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                    • Nessism
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by doctorgonzo
                      That's the answer I needed. Thanks Ed. In the words of Ray (I think)... mo money... mo money... mo money....
                      Get some of these... http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=5649 and a 2"-3" micrometer. Make sure the micrometer has resolution down to .0001", some of the cheap ones don't, and it comes with a standard so you can check calibration.
                      Ed

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                      Top Newbie Mistakes thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...d.php?t=171846

                      Carb rebuild tutorial...https://gsarchive.bwringer.com/mtsac...d_Tutorial.pdf

                      KZ750E Rebuild Thread...http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...0-Resurrection

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                      • rapidray
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                        #12
                        You need a DIAL BORE GAUGE to do it CORRECTLY! Nothing else will give you an ACCURATE measurement! Ray.

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                        • doctorgonzo

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rapidray
                          You need a DIAL BORE GAUGE to do it CORRECTLY! Nothing else will give you an ACCURATE measurement! Ray.
                          Gonna see if the auto parts store loans them, if not gonna let the machine shop measure before they hone.

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                          • TheCafeKid

                            #14
                            Originally posted by doctorgonzo
                            Gonna see if the auto parts store loans them, if not gonna let the machine shop measure before they hone.
                            Have them measure AFTER the hone too. If your sleaves are boarderline between a 0/+1/+2 for your rings, it would help to know what the final measurement is, so you're not putting rings a size too small in there.

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                            • doctorgonzo

                              #15
                              Originally posted by TheCafeKid
                              Have them measure AFTER the hone too. If your sleaves are boarderline between a 0/+1/+2 for your rings, it would help to know what the final measurement is, so you're not putting rings a size too small in there.
                              Good thinking sir.

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