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  • drmaxdc

    #1

    Whats the trick?

    I rebuilt the carbs on my 81 GS1100 E for the first time. Whats the trick to putting the air box on? It won't fit with the carbs on the bike, I guess I'll try taking the carbs back off and put the air box on while they are off. Where is the best place to find new boots the the carb and air box? Thanks
  • Guest

    #2
    If the boots on the airbox are very hard you will have a heck of a time.
    Try mrcycles.com for some new boots.

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    • Steve
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      • Jun 2005
      • 35925
      • southwest oHIo

      #3
      On most bikes, the airbox goes in, then the carbs.

      There might be one or two that can be removed with the carbs in place, but I have not heard.

      Consider yourself fortunate, though, there are a couple of models that require removing the engine to remove the airbox from the frame.

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      • tkent02
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        #4
        Put the air box in the frame, but don't bolt it to anything. Leave the rear part of the airbox where the filter goes off for now. Push the airbox as far back in the frame as it can go. The carbs can slide in from the right, tilted at about thirty degree angle. You probably want to stop about half way in to attach the throttle and choke cables, have the fuel line attached to the carb T before you start, you can't reach these when it's all together.

        A shot of silicone spray lube inside the rubber boots helps get the carbs in without damaging the boots. A ratcheting tie down around the engine can be used to pull the carbs forward and pop them into the boots if needed. Be careful not to break anything if you do this.

        It is a LOT easier with new rubber front and rear.
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        • Steve
          GS Whisperer
          • Jun 2005
          • 35925
          • southwest oHIo

          #5
          Originally posted by tkent02
          A ratcheting tie down around the engine can be used to pull the carbs forward and pop them into the boots if needed.
          I LEARNED SOMETHING.

          Can I go home now?

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          • DanTheMan

            #6
            Hi, Mr. drmaxdc, if you'll follow this link, http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...30#post1168630
            you'll get a real nice picture tutorial on how to solve the problem.

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            • koolaid_kid

              #7
              The boots are available at http://www.babbittsonline.com/pages/.../1/Suzuki.aspx
              You'll want parts 2 and 16 on the AIR CLEANER fiche. I suggest also replacing parts 3, 8 & 17, but that's your call.
              Last edited by Guest; 03-08-2010, 03:40 PM.

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              • BassCliff

                #8
                Originally posted by DanTheMan
                Hi, Mr. drmaxdc, if you'll follow this link, http://www.thegsresources.com/_forum...30#post1168630
                you'll get a real nice picture tutorial on how to solve the problem.
                Hi,

                Thanks for the vote of confidence Dan! But on my 850 there is a lot more room behind the engine. I can put the carbs on first and then slide the airbox in behind them.



                I was surprised at how easy the operation was. I'm starting to think that there is not another bike that is easier to work on than mine.

                Thank you for your indulgence,

                BassCliff

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                • Kaiser Sosei

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tkent02
                  Put the air box in the frame, but don't bolt it to anything. Leave the rear part of the airbox where the filter goes off for now. Push the airbox as far back in the frame as it can go. The carbs can slide in from the right, tilted at about thirty degree angle. You probably want to stop about half way in to attach the throttle and choke cables, have the fuel line attached to the carb T before you start, you can't reach these when it's all together.

                  A shot of silicone spray lube inside the rubber boots helps get the carbs in without damaging the boots. A ratcheting tie down around the engine can be used to pull the carbs forward and pop them into the boots if needed. Be careful not to break anything if you do this.

                  It is a LOT easier with new rubber front and rear.
                  I'll second this advice. If your rubber boots aren't nice and squishy, replace them. You can fight with hard boots forever or it can take you 5 minutes with new ones. And definately don't forget to attach the cables before you get the carbs all the way in. Don't ask me how I know.

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                  • drmaxdc

                    #10
                    Boots ordered, now the wait! Thanks for the help.

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                    • bwringer
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BassCliff
                      Hi,

                      Thanks for the vote of confidence Dan! But on my 850 there is a lot more room behind the engine. I can put the carbs on first and then slide the airbox in behind them.



                      I was surprised at how easy the operation was. I'm starting to think that there is not another bike that is easier to work on than mine.

                      Thank you for your indulgence,

                      BassCliff

                      Yep, yanking the carbs on a shaftie is about as easy as it gets.
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