Tell me about smoothbores please

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  • exhondaguy

    #16
    Wow, thanks for the manual! I'm going to get educated on these things now.
    Seems like they are worth hanging on to. Now I just need to get the bike to go with.
    Last edited by Guest; 11-26-2008, 01:32 AM.

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    • dardoonk
      Forum Sage
      • Nov 2006
      • 1002
      • Indian Trail (Charlotte) NC

      #17
      Originally posted by exhondaguy
      Wow, thanks for the manual! I'm going to get educated on these things now.
      Seems like they are worth hanging on to. Now I just need to get the bike to go with.
      Wait a minute.. You've got a set of 29 smoothies, and no bike?? You should be fined by the UJM Police, forced to send those carbs to my home, and buy a GS!

      Priorities, priorities...

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      • exhondaguy

        #18
        Originally posted by dardoonk
        Wait a minute.. You've got a set of 29 smoothies, and no bike?? You should be fined by the UJM Police, forced to send those carbs to my home, and buy a GS!

        Priorities, priorities...
        No, I have a set of 33 smoothies and no bike to put them on.

        I do have a totally stock 700es, though I've had these carbs for way longer than that.
        I've just been using them as a decoration. They really tie the decor in my living room together.
        I got curious about them when VMs were mentioned a few times on here.

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        • sharpy

          #19
          Mmmmm So keep what you have a s u be kicking ureself down the track

          33's are good for a average of 10hp and will run on a almost standard 1100. Just a pipe and GOOD airfilter should be a nice ride. 3 yrs ago a set of 29's got sold for $700 au here so mine are staying where they are.

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          • rapidray
            Forum Guru
            GSResource Superstar
            • Oct 2006
            • 8195
            • So Cal

            #20
            The 33s are actually about the best smoothbores you can put on a stock motor with only a pipe 1100 or 1150. The throttle response & bottom end are good. The midrange is great, & the top end is AWESOME! The 33s are worth about 300-400 bucks on average & if in REALLY nice shape, as in NEW, 450. Find an ES & have a nice pair of bikes. I'm guessing your 700 is blue & white? My first ever NEW bike was a blue & white 700ES. The 33s will need about a 125 main jet with the needle one clip lean from the middle to start with to get you close with just a pipe & a set of K&Ns. Good luck & if you ever want to sell the 33s I got first dibs cause no one else called dibs! LOL!!! Ray.

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            • not a biker

              #21
              at the drags

              in 1985 i took my 81 gs1100 to the drag races, i had 2 sets of carbs both using pods. most of the time i had 33 smooth bores on the bike. a friend gave me his CVs off his 84 gs1150. i did my own jetting and needles so i might have been off BUT with the CVs it ran 114 mph .i re installed the 33s and ran 122 mph. maybe the jetting could have been better ? on the CVs but on the street the bike ran smooth and responsive.
              the bike was stock except for a V&H pipe

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              • Guest

                #22
                I have dibs cause I'm bigger than you.

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                • tucker

                  #23
                  Just wondering. What determines if it is a smoothbore? I have two sets of 29s on my desk at work waiting for me to do something with. One set is off my KZ1000 Shaft drive Kaw and the other I got free when a friend cleaned his garage. They look the same as the examples above except the bowls are a bit different, with a nipple in the middle with a drain plug angled off to the side. I'm pretty sure they are just standard KZ carbs.

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                  • blowerbike
                    Forum Guru
                    GSResource Superstar
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 7057
                    • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

                    #24
                    do both pairs measure 29mm at the rear throat area?
                    i look for the large removable plug on the bowls for changing main jets.
                    the 29mm measurement and the large bowl plugs are a dead give a way for me.
                    im sure theres number maybe..
                    maybe some (old ) timer may jump in and let us know.

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                    • tucker

                      #25
                      It measures 29mm id on the block side at the opening. Also, the big removable plug is what mine doesn't have. Mine have a nipple with hose and a small removable drain plug off to the side at an angle. I'll post a pic later, maybe someone will know. Maybe I will go to the KZ rider site, I lurk there sometimes (not nearly as cool as this place).

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                      • tucker

                        #26
                        OK, so maybe it measures 28mm. I checked out Z1s carb id page http://www.z1enterprises.com/referen...arb-guide.aspx
                        and also had the brilliant idea to look at the specs in my Clymers manual.
                        28mm smoothbore.
                        Thanks.

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                        • blowerbike
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 7057
                          • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

                          #27
                          tucker what you have is 28mm mechanical carbs not smoothbores.
                          round slide mikuni smoothbores come in odd number sizes..29/31/33/ ect..
                          if yours are 28mm then i will guess that they are from a kawi of a certain year and model.

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                          • rapidray
                            Forum Guru
                            GSResource Superstar
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 8195
                            • So Cal

                            #28
                            Originally posted by blowerbike
                            tucker what you have is 28mm mechanical carbs not smoothbores.
                            round slide mikuni smoothbores come in odd number sizes..29/31/33/ ect..
                            if yours are 28mm then i will guess that they are from a kawi of a certain year and model.
                            I've never seen 31s anything other than the Keihin CRs. Ray.

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                            • blowerbike
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                              • Aug 2008
                              • 7057
                              • Ohio Closer to KY Than Cleveland

                              #29
                              Originally posted by rapidray
                              I've never seen 31s anything other than the Keihin CRs. Ray.
                              i was on a roll with the odd numbers and stopped at 33

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                              • rapidray
                                Forum Guru
                                GSResource Superstar
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 8195
                                • So Cal

                                #30
                                I see! Ray.

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