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  • timebombprod
    Forum Sage
    • Nov 2019
    • 1666
    • spring hill florida

    #1

    final drive play

    is there a certain amount of play aloud for the final drive gears? do they get sold used commonly? having trouble finding them on ebay and a new one would be $233.

    video of mine
    Ian

    1982 GS650GLZ
    1982 XS650
  • Gorminrider
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    • Aug 2012
    • 4803
    • British Columbia, Canada

    #2
    I don't know- someone will if there isn't a mention in the shop manual...but That's the thing about shaft drives...a bit of wear and they have the same snatch as a loose chain and sprockets... but harder to fix! so take it easy starting out from stoplights. I tried to ride mine "staid"...as though it was an old Beemer R75

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    • Grimly
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      • Sep 2012
      • 5761
      • Ireland

      #3
      How worn are the actual splines on each part? One thing I noticed immediately when I fitted a new driven spline (on the wheel side) was how much more tightly it fitted to the final drive hub. The old one on the wheel wasn't visibly worn, but that was on a different wheel and I'd had no reason to suspect it was defective. So, you can run with a bit of play in them, as long as the splines aren't showing signs of wearing away.
      Dave
      '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
      Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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      • timebombprod
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        • Nov 2019
        • 1666
        • spring hill florida

        #4
        The hub that attaches to the rear wheel seems to be worn but I'll have to take a video, I'm gonna clean both gears so the condition of both are able to be shown
        Ian

        1982 GS650GLZ
        1982 XS650

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        • craz1
          Forum Mentor
          • Nov 2021
          • 108
          • Coeur D Alene ID

          #5
          Remove that wheel drive form the final drive and show us the splines. Looks like there is a bit of wear. If it looks like this then your in trouble

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          • craz1
            Forum Mentor
            • Nov 2021
            • 108
            • Coeur D Alene ID

            #6
            Also when you reassemble you need to use a Moly Paste for the splines. Honda makes a good product I use.

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            • timebombprod
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              • Nov 2019
              • 1666
              • spring hill florida

              #7

              condition of my drive gears, I can see how the wear is forming no doubt, is it okay to use it does it need to be replaced.
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              Ian

              1982 GS650GLZ
              1982 XS650

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              • Grimly
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                #8
                Originally posted by timebombprod
                https://youtube.com/shorts/i7axhiVuMjc?feature=share
                condition of my drive gears, I can see how the wear is forming no doubt, is it okay to use it does it need to be replaced.
                That's definitely on its way out - replace and never worry about it again, as long as you keep it lubed every tyre change.
                You can get a used one in perfect condition for ten to twenty bucks.
                Dave
                '79 GS850GN '80 GS850GT
                Only a dog knows why a motorcyclist sticks his head out of a car window

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                • timebombprod
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                  • Nov 2019
                  • 1666
                  • spring hill florida

                  #9
                  could you by chance help me source one? ive tried looking with the part number aswell as the name of the part but i keep coming up short.

                  its called the joint assembly or the name they list it as is "JOIN ASSY, DRIVEN"

                  part number is 64680-45112 and the superseed is 64680-45113

                  or ofcourse if somebody has one for sale.


                  Ian

                  1982 GS650GLZ
                  1982 XS650

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                  • craz1
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                    • Nov 2021
                    • 108
                    • Coeur D Alene ID

                    #10
                    https://www.partzilla.com/product/suzuki/64680-45113
                    ✓ In stock now JOINT ASSY,RR HUB DRIVEN ✓ Manufacturer Part Number: 64680-45113 ✓ Genuine Suzuki part



                    There are several on e-bay and the one I posted doesn't look to bad. Always taking chances with a used part. the least expensive is from cmsnl. The 2nd picture you posted doesn't show a lot of the actual splines but yes I can see some wear. Nothing that would fail soon. You could put it back together with some moly past and keep an eye on it.

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                    • timebombprod
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                      • Nov 2019
                      • 1666
                      • spring hill florida

                      #11
                      Originally posted by craz1
                      https://www.partzilla.com/product/suzuki/64680-45113
                      ✓ In stock now JOINT ASSY,RR HUB DRIVEN ✓ Manufacturer Part Number: 64680-45113 ✓ Genuine Suzuki part



                      There are several on e-bay and the one I posted doesn't look to bad. Always taking chances with a used part. the least expensive is from cmsnl. The 2nd picture you posted doesn't show a lot of the actual splines but yes I can see some wear. Nothing that would fail soon. You could put it back together with some moly past and keep an eye on it.
                      do you think itd be good for another 4000? thats when ill be changing the tires out. ill have to keep looking for one on ebay if i run this one for the meantime.
                      Ian

                      1982 GS650GLZ
                      1982 XS650

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                      • timebombprod
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                        • Nov 2019
                        • 1666
                        • spring hill florida

                        #12
                        Originally posted by craz1
                        Remove that wheel drive form the final drive and show us the splines. Looks like there is a bit of wear. If it looks like this then your in trouble
                        thats horrendous! luckily nowhere near that lol
                        Ian

                        1982 GS650GLZ
                        1982 XS650

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                        • craz1
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                          • Nov 2021
                          • 108
                          • Coeur D Alene ID

                          #13
                          Ya 4,000 is not that many miles. Just use the moly lube. Regular bearing grease won't cut it

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                          • timebombprod
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                            • Nov 2019
                            • 1666
                            • spring hill florida

                            #14
                            Okay forsure, is it okay to buy any brand of moly lube or are some better than others?

                            Thanks!
                            Ian

                            1982 GS650GLZ
                            1982 XS650

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                            • craz1
                              Forum Mentor
                              • Nov 2021
                              • 108
                              • Coeur D Alene ID

                              #15
                              I just use the Honda Moly paste I gave a link for. I don't have to guess on the quality.

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