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    The cooler needed some work with a flaring tool to sort out the hardlines, good to go now. Cooler position doesn't foul on brake lines, speedo cable or steering lock to lock. So far so good.


    Oil cooler 8 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


    Oil cooler 11 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


    I wanted a decent sized gap between the cooler and frame to allow unrestricted air flow. The OEM cooler bracket is more of a plate than a bracket and its positioned very close to the cooler with not much of a gap to bleed away heat so the OEM bracket is out and in with the DIY aluminium bracket.
    Oil cooler 13 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


    Cooler sits neatly within the body panels and in the air-stream between the forks.
    Oil cooler 12 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr

    Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 04-01-2024, 03:56 AM.
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    1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
    1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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      Cool cooler bracket

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        The plan is later today to drop the engine oil and install the hardware for the oil cooler including the all important EF oil filter cover used when running an oil cooler. Haven't weighed the cooler parts yet, adding weight is no fun!

        Oil cooler 14 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


        Oil cooler 15 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
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        1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
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          Remind us please what engine you're running. 1074 is in your name, but for some reason I thought you were working with an 1135 (which came with a cooler so naturally also the proper oil filter cover).

          I'm sure I wouldn't be so confused if you weren't living in that 'other' hemisphere. Is it true your toilets flush backwards?
          1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

          2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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            The build has the 1135 EF engine installed. I removed the oil cooler to record engine oil temps while test riding and although the oil temps without the cooler are below the range Suzuki state for operation of an air-cooled GS I am fitting a cooler to check the temp difference.
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            1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
            1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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              I'm sure I wouldn't be so confused if you weren't living in that 'other' hemisphere. Is it true your toilets flush backwards?

              Yeah, nar, ours flush the correct way, it's the shonky Northern systems that are suss.
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              1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
              1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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                So didn't your engine already have the correct filter cover?
                1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

                2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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                  Originally posted by Rob S. View Post
                  So didn't your engine already have the correct filter cover?
                  Yep, it did. In the test riding phase I wanted to monitor engine oil temps without the oil cooler fitted to check the temp range so a stock GSX non cooler type oil filter cover was installed during the current test riding. Ditching the oil cooler saves weight and that is the goal of the project. The engine oil temp in riding conditions without a cooler at is time of year is below the max engine oil temp as stated by Suzuki for a GS air-cooled engine so it doesn't need the cooler right now. However, Summer riding here will be much hotter and high humidity so Iam fitting a cooler to test by how much the cooler reduces the engine oil temp.
                  Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 04-06-2024, 08:53 PM.
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                    Installed the cooler today, adding weight is not my idea of a good thing but for testing it has to be done. The total weight of cooler and hardware came in at 864 grams so the running tally needs an adjustment. I will off-set the weight of any additional parts that are bolted on by reducing the fuel load. One litre of fuel = 767 grams. Once I find out how thirsty the DW is I can work out how much fuel I can off-load. Aiming for a ride weight of 198 kg for the Kat.


                    Oil cooler 16 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


                    Oil cooler 17 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


                    Running tally = 182,441 grams.
                    Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 04-07-2024, 02:18 AM.
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                      Originally posted by Lorenzo View Post
                      Cool cooler bracket
                      Thanks Lorenzo, yeah, it turned out pretty good.
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                      1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
                      1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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                        I'm sure you're not pleased with the added weight, but the continuation of this thread is not something I regret.
                        I love how it makes me feel I could also fabricate OEM looking brackets and what not from mere scrap.

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                          You are correct about the weight Diirk, bit of a downer. The cooler bracket looks O.K. just a pity the cooler itself is not as good looking right now. Just went for a test ride to the end of the street and number 1 header looked like there was a BBQ going on down there, a nice smoked brisket BBQ! The cooler has a split in the lower plate so no joy there. Will sort through the other coolers and find one that keeps the oil on the inside.


                          Oil cooler 19 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


                          Oil cooler 18 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
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                            Cooler and hardware have been removed, pipes and block have been cleaned and non-cooler hardware installed. So it's Plan B and another cooler, the bad news is the next cooler will be heavier than the first cooler. The good news is the DW is 864 grams lighter without the cooler right now.


                            Running tally = 181,595 grams.

                            Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 04-11-2024, 05:28 AM.
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                            1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
                            1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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                              I guess the silver lining is that it happened on a short, low speed test ride.
                              Obviously that could have been ugly.
                              2@ \'78 GS1000

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                                Originally posted by steve murdoch View Post
                                I guess the silver lining is that it happened on a short, low speed test ride.
                                Obviously that could have been ugly.
                                My rule is whenever working with coolant or oil always do the first test at low speed and around the block a few times to check everything. If there is a problem and it can't be ridden, pushing the bike back home is no drama compared to what may happen if you just get out there and fang it from the get go and it all goes pear shaped at high speed, like oil on the rear tyre if I had kept riding with the leak.
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                                1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
                                1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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