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    Originally posted by steve murdoch View Post
    Were you stuck in traffic or maybe having a lot of fun in the upper rev range?
    That seems like a very high engine temperature for just a 29C day. I'm sure you get hotter days than that.
    Just wondering if your temp gauge is properly calibrated?
    Hi Steve, flowing city traffic and open road 100kph. I'll check the gauge with my "Old School" thermo and see if it is reading correctly. The other option is the engine has had some work and could be a bit sportier than a stock 1135 EF engine. Didn't remove the head so no idea what capacity it is. Could explain why it launches instantly with the slightest touch of the throttle, almost like fly by wire!

    Yes, Summer here is 40C plus with 95% humidity and when it's that humid air cooling is not as effective as at lower humidity levels.
    Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 03-20-2024, 08:17 PM.
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    1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
    1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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      Originally posted by Shin-Ken 1074 View Post
      ...could be a bit sportier than a stock 1135 EF engine.
      In any case, the stock 1135 came with an oil cooler, so...

      Also, if you're only going 100 kph, you're not riding correctly. It's supposed to go 100 mph (160 kph).
      1982 GS1100E V&H "SS" exhaust, APE pods, 1150 oil cooler, 140 speedo, 99.3 rear wheel HP, black engine, '83 red

      2016 XL883L sigpic Two-tone blue and white. Almost 42 hp! Status: destroyed, now owned by the insurance company. The hole in my memory starts an hour before the accident and ends 24 hours after.

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        Having not read this entire thread, but any chance the stator is Adding heat to the oil?
        Jim, in Central New York State.

        1980 GS750E (bought used June,1983)
        1968 CB350 Super Sport (bought new Oct,1968)
        1962 CA77 305 Dream (bought used Feb,1963)

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          Originally posted by pdqford View Post
          Having not read this entire thread, but any chance the stator is Adding heat to the oil?
          It could add some heat but not enough to spike the heat to over 130C. The reason for not fitting a cooler was to save weight. With no cooler an oil temp gauge was installed to monitor the oil temp however, even in mild weather conditions the oil is getting too hot. On a (brisk) test ride yesterday the oil temp got 132 C so it needs an oil cooler, as they were fitted originally by Suzuki. That is what testing is for, to evaluate and confirm and this test confirms a cooler is needed.
          Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 03-23-2024, 07:01 AM.
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          1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
          1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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            Originally posted by Shin-Ken 1074 View Post

            It could add some heat but not enough to spike the heat to over 130C. oil temp gauge was installed to monitor the oil temp however, even in mild weather conditions the oil is getting too hot. On a (brisk) test ride yesterday the oil temp got 132 C so it needs an oil cooler, as they were fitted originally by Suzuki. That is what testing is for, to evaluate and confirm and this test confirms a cooler is needed.
            Those pared fins. Not much but they would've helped...

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              Originally posted by Lorenzo View Post

              Those pared fins. Not much but they would've helped...
              True, but they had to go and not just to loose weight, the sump fins had to go to fit the titanium pipes. I could always fit a stock sump with fins to see if it makes a difference, yeah,nar.
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              1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
              1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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                No need for down-under side of pipes to be round.

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                  He’s in Australia. His whole bike is “down-under”.

                  Sorry. Someone had to say it.
                  Rich
                  1982 GS 750TZ
                  2015 Triumph Tiger 1200

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                    [no pun intended obviously]

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                      Originally posted by Rich82GS750TZ View Post
                      He’s in Australia. His whole bike is “down-under”.

                      Sorry. Someone had to say it.
                      Glad someone did.
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                      1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
                      1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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                        The weather here has been total errr, rain, since last weekend and forecast is for rain everyday for the next week! No test riding and all quite here for another week at least.
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                        1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
                        1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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                          Coming back to the DW versus Curb weight quoted by Suzuki, I believe all Japanese manufacturers in the 80's quoted the DW without any liquid on board i.e; not only fuel but also oil and coolant if any.
                          This explains the difference between the two measures.
                          A marketing gimmick as when KTM annouces ready to ride weights with very little fuel in the tank...
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                          My bikes: CB 77, GS 1000 ST Cafe Racer with GSXR 1052 engine, GS 1000 ST, XR 41 Replica with GS 1085 engine,
                          GS 1100 SZ Katana with GS 1135 EFF engine, KTM Superduke 1290 R 2020

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                            Originally posted by John Kat View Post
                            Coming back to the DW versus Curb weight quoted by Suzuki, I believe all Japanese manufacturers in the 80's quoted the DW without any liquid on board i.e; not only fuel but also oil and coolant if any.
                            This explains the difference between the two measures.
                            A marketing gimmick as when KTM annouces ready to ride weights with very little fuel in the tank...
                            Yeah, the factory stated weights can seem a bit rubbery at times.
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                            1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
                            1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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                              Time to choose an oil cooler from the spares pile.


                              Oil cooler 1 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


                              The lightest cooler from the pile is a transmission oil cooler so that will be the 1st cab off the rank. Temp gauge will show how effective it is.

                              Oil cooler 2 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


                              Making the lower bracket for the oil cooler from some scrap ally square section.

                              Oil cooler 3 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


                              Oil cooler 4 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr

                              After the lower bracket is installed and the cooler fitted I'll be able to work out the top bracket.
                              Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 03-29-2024, 09:56 AM.
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                              1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
                              1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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                                Drilling and filing, filing, and more filing......................


                                Oil cooler 5 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


                                Oil cooler 7 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


                                Oil cooler 9 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr


                                Oil cooler 10 by Max Mutarn, on Flickr
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                                1982 GSX1100SXZ Wire Wheel Katana - BOM Nov 2011
                                1981 GSX1135 Katana Build completed Mar 2024, Curb Weight, all fluids and 21 lt fuel = 206 kg.

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